Rant

[lensmanmd]

[Kwill212]

Imagine how ridiculous a frame would look if actually had a properly measured fitting height of 11mm...

[drk]

Talk to anyone else in the office?

[lensmanmd]

Talk to anyone else in the office?

Sup was copied. Not a peep from the sup. Sigh. And they are all ABOC. So much for certifications.

[lensmanmd]

McTicians

[Lensman11]

Poorly trained opticians are nothing new. When I owned a wholesale lab we used put on a bulletinboard the ridiculous things customers would order or request. This brings to mind one of my favorites. This was early days of progressives and frames did not have demo lenses so it was popular to put clear adhesive tape across the eyewire and put a cross at the pupil height. This usually meant that mono pd was at the same position so lab had to take the measurements off the cross to fill the order. We received a frame with black electrician tape across the eyewire with a white cross to mark the pupil position. We call the optician his answer was I was told to put a piece of tape across the eyewire and mark a cross on the tape. Good intentions but zero understanding as to what he was doing. This was in the early 1980’s.

[Barry Santini]

The Fitting Height is just that: The position intended by the fitter.
Do not assume this is always one and the same with the pupil height.
And it is rarely the same as the OC Height

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[mervinek]

And they are all ABOC. So much for certifications.

It's sad, really. I worked with people who were ABOC and were dumb as a box of rocks. You'll have that in every field. It's frustrating when you're the coworker that has to clean up that mess. It's frustrating when you're the lab dealing with people like that. I remember working in the lab and getting an order that was -4.00 one eye and +4.00 other eye. I questioned it. Optician was super offended and angry. Fast forward a week and she ordered a remake for the +4.00 Should have been a -4.00. Face Palm. You mentioned the bulletin board you used to do, we used to dream about a website called badframes.com. Every time we got an ugly frame or bad condition frame we would all say..."this belongs on the website!" This kind of stuff lightens your day and makes lab staff laugh. Extra bonus points if you include a photo of staff wearing the ugly frame.

[AngeHamm]

A majority of the most aggressively useless people I have had to work with in this business have been licensed.

[Uncle Fester]

A majority of the most aggressively useless people I have had to work with in this business have been licensed.

HEY YOU! TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW!!!

[Judy Canty]

A majority of the most aggressively useless people I have had to work with in this business have been licensed.

Hmmmm...

[lensmanmd]

Hmmmm...

AngeHamm is not wrong. We have clinics in VA that I support. Many are good. Many are……and I'm trying to be very polite.

[Judy Canty]

There are more than 1900 licensed opticians in VA. I doubt that either of you have worked with the majority of them.

[lensmanmd]

There are more than 1900 licensed opticians in VA. I doubt that either of you have worked with the majority of them.

I support NOVA, so yes, not the majority. My sample size says enough.

I’ve also worked in NOVA alongside licensed opticians, as well as apprentices. Real world experience says the same. Many were qualified. Many were not. As the SME, they came to me with questions that they should have known as an LDO.

I was a Maryland resident at the time and was not granted the opportunity to sit for the board, though I worked FT in VA. I still regret not appealing that decision.

[Judy Canty]

I support NOVA, so yes, not the majority. My sample size says enough.

I’ve also worked in NOVA alongside licensed opticians, as well as apprentices. Real world experience says the same. Many were qualified. Many were not. As the SME, they came to me with questions that they should have known as an LDO.

I was a Maryland resident at the time and was not granted the opportunity to sit for the board, though I worked FT in VA. I still regret not appealing that decision.

There is no residency requirement for sitting for our state board examination. As a former HASOPT board member and chair, I would be interested to know why you were denied the opportunity.