See all about it:
Self Measurement Device Unveiled at CES 2019
in LasVegas last week
See all of it :
https://www.optiboard.com/forums/sho...ations-Honoree
See all about it:
Self Measurement Device Unveiled at CES 2019
in LasVegas last week
See all of it :
https://www.optiboard.com/forums/sho...ations-Honoree
....................who cares, and so far they have no competition on the market.
The instrument is probably made in China and they had to order a certain quantity and will get the stock in by somewhere in late February. I guess that it could become a good selleras the news has been flashing aound the optical world.
It's not a "Rx" if there's no doctor signature.
You mean, "check your vision". It says so on the device.
I applaud the device. Now the numbskulls that are DIY opticians can be DIY optometrists, and leave me alone.
..............................look at the other side, what this could or can do in the real world that has just waited for such a device.
Any sunglass stand in your drugstore or shopping center kiosk, can now have a "check your vision" instrument and will start selling sunglasses with prescription lenses, made in labs that are just waiting for more businesses.
Opticians in non regulated states will have a "VisionCheck" instrument or several, on location, and get the "lens powers" right on the spot.
Online opticals will be the best promoters for the instrument.
drk.............................they will leave you alone for another 2 months and then it will slowly start to make its way into the optical retail trade and some of it into private hands. During the next 12 month we should see some reactions by the public as well as the professionals.
Thanks, I'll check it out. Does it ship to Quebec?
Again, can a machine prescribe? Then they won't be prescription.
They may be "tailored" or "customized" but not prescription.
All the yahoos that don't do what I have done for thirty years think they can do this. IMMA TELLIN' YA THEY CAN'T.
So I'm getting out the popcorn bag emoji.
Garbage in, garbage out.
The engineering of a cheap autorefractor is perhaps a nice development. But face it, there are laws against "have autorefractor in store, can prescribe to my heart's content", right now. And there is enough optometric money to keep it illegal in my state, at least.
I'm sure, though, that they'll try to put these cheap autorefractors in GP MDs offices (having found a license to exploit) who will get some kind of referral spiff to have a kiosk (like an ATM machine in a gas station convenience store).
But put it in Sunglass Hut and it'll be shut down.
Last edited by drk; 01-23-2019 at 03:28 PM.
Oh my gosh. It looks like it's merely a piece of plastic to keep your eye a set distance from a phone.
For $59.99.
It's not even a refracting device.
https://www.eyeque.com/
drk...............................interesting
You just made the first comment for not letting it come on the market and being used .
Similar comments were made when the online opticals started to pop up on the web, which now claim to have 14% of the optical retail sales.
The *CheckQue* does not claim to be an autorefractor, but to be a measuring instrument.
1. Marketing claims notwitstanding, legislators that are educated can see through the fluff.
2. "Not letting it come on the market" is better conceptualized as "they are flying in the face of existing law, so enforcement is needed."
3. Yes, online opticals are difficult because they are trans-national and private transactions.
I maintain, however, that, for example, in my state, any Ohio-based online optical selling glasses to Ohio citizens is in violation of Ohio's dispensing regulations.
The bottom line is patient safety. Otherwise we can de-regulate health care to save a buck.
Unfortunately, there is a push towards "free medical care" in the west, so that is the zeitgeist...not quality care, nor appropriate regulation.
But enforcement funding changes, and for actions there are equal and opposite reactions. Pendulums swing. It is surely too slow.
Remember the biitching about HMOs in the '90's?
You got a a good point, but does it help in reality ? here is what happened in Ontario one year ago, and we have not heard any news since then..................................
Total silence on the subject for one full year as far as I can see.Originally Posted by Chris Ryser
As far as I can see "Clearly" must be continuing their sales into Ontario without objections and court cases.
Last edited by Chris Ryser; 01-26-2019 at 06:06 AM.
.................................and here is another one were the professions lost against Essilor:
...............................so the question is : how much is that professional protection worth these days in a commercial world, that is on a racetrac of fast change in every commercial field ?
Are the professional legal protections that were created in the last century out of date, and can be bypassed by political know how, or cash money ?
How many more similar cases across thei continent are in the works ? There is total silence and nobody in the professional law protections field, fights for what they stand for.
Last edited by Chris Ryser; 01-26-2019 at 05:11 AM.
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College of Optometrists of Quebec c. Coastal Contacts Inc., 9130-4329 Quebec inc. (doing business under the name of Gestion Progrex)
(Qc) (Civil) (By Leave)Professional Law - Optometrists - Internet sales of ophthalmic lenses to Quebec residents by a company located in British Columbia - Sections 16 and 25 of the Optometry Act , RLRQ c. O-7, do they prohibit the sale of ophthalmic lenses to Quebec residents by an out-of-province person? The respondent Coastal Contacts inc. (" Coastal ") is a company headquartered in British Columbia that, although it does not have a facility in Quebec, sells ophthalmic lenses to residents of Quebec through its sites. web. Coastal is related to the respondent Gestion Progex (" Progex "), a commercial corporation with head office in Quebec, by a service agreement. Under this agreement, Progex redirects customers who are interested in the properties advertised on its website to Coastal's websites.Coastal's sales activities are in accordance with the laws in force in British Columbia.
On January 11, 2010, the College of Optometrists of Quebec, plaintiff, filed a motion for a declaratory judgment in the Superior Court declaring that Coastal and Progrex contravened the Optometry Act through their sites. Web site by claiming to have the right to exercise a professional activity reserved for members of the Order or by acting in such a way as to give reason to believe that they are authorized to do so. The College argues that the sale of ophthalmic lenses is an act reserved for optometrists under sections 16 and 25 of the Optometry Act .
The trial judge found that under Quebec civil law, the contract of sale was formed in British Columbia, and it is the law of that province that governs the contract. He also considers that art. 16 LSO does not prohibit the sale of ophthalmic lenses to Quebec residents by an out-of-province person. Although the purpose of the OSI is to protect the public, acts relating to the sale of ophthalmic lenses are less clearly connected to the protection of the public, and with this in mind, the reservation made to s. 16 LSO seeks instead to confer an economic monopoly on professionals (para 53). It states that the OLS does not have an extraterritorial effect in this case, since the situation in question does not have a real and substantial connection with Quebec.The Court of Appeal dismisses the appeal.
]
December 3, 2014
Superior Court of Quebec
(Judge Mayer)
2014 QCCS 5886Motion for declaratory judgment dismissed
May 16, 2016
Court of Appeal of Quebec (Montreal)
(Doyon, Giroux and Savard JJ.)
2016 QCCA 837 ; 500-09-024950-156Appeal rejected
source: https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/ne.../5403/index.do
...........................and here is what actually happened, translated from french by GOOGLE, and the final judgment on the case. It looks it is not that easy to pass professional laws in court and takes lots of time.
Last edited by Chris Ryser; 01-26-2019 at 05:59 AM.
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