Exotic color photochromic lenses

[DanLiv]

Do vibrant fun color photochromics exist anymore? I'm familiar with the Transitions colors, but they are not very colorful at all, just slightly shifted towards the claimed color in the same way G-15 is slightly shifted to green. I have a customer who wants a fun pink or purple photochromic and claims she's seen them on others. What she saw could easily be some cheap but fun-looking thing someone got from Zenni. Now she wants that from me and I don't know where to get it, neither does my (Essilor) lab know about any current product. I seem to remember Hoya having some in recent years? I haven't dealt with Hoya so that's just rumor I picked up. Anyone have a source for those?

[AngeHamm]

Do vibrant fun color photochromics exist anymore? I'm familiar with the Transitions colors, but they are not very colorful at all, just slightly shifted towards the claimed color in the same way G-15 is slightly shifted to green. I have a customer who wants a fun pink or purple photochromic and claims she's seen them on others. What she saw could easily be some cheap but fun-looking thing someone got from Zenni. Now she wants that from me and I don't know where to get it, neither does my (Essilor) lab know about any current product. I seem to remember Hoya having some in recent years? I haven't dealt with Hoya so that's just rumor I picked up. Anyone have a source for those?

Sounds like a job for TRANSITIONS SPLITZ!

[ODoS_HBB]

My lab still has the Transition Mirrors available in polycarb, but thats the closest thing I can think of in fun transitions colours. As far as I can see Hoya's Sensity line only does grey, brown, and grey-green, though they also have mirror options with Sensity Shine.
I've seen non-RX photochromic colours on fashion glasses (Rayban Evolve lenses for example), but nothing fun and RXable.

In the manufacturing process could a lens be given a light tint, then have a photochromic coating applied? Or is that space cadet thinking?

[CME4SPECS]

Transitions has Style Colors in Emerald, Sapphire, Amethyst and Amber.
transitions.com/gen8

[DanLiv]

In the manufacturing process could a lens be given a light tint, then have a photochromic coating applied? Or is that space cadet thinking?

Photochromics are are built into the lens blanks, so that would have to be first. But one can tint over that. Maybe my customer would like a pink tint lens that transitions to regular gray or brown. Of course now a bunch of labs are refusing to do tints on photochromics, so I'll have to get it from a lab that doesn't mind playing fast and loose.

[Uncle Fester]

In the manufacturing process could a lens be given a light tint, then have a photochromic coating applied? Or is that space cadet thinking?

This is from many years ago by a PPG Industries executive and Optiboard guru.

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[Alex Camblor]

Zeiss has a blue or pioneer green photofusion lenses but I have not dispensed either.

[Judy Canty]

Yes they do. Luzerne offers its FreeFocus SV and PALs Photo-Fashion in plum, chili pepper red, lemon yellow, green apple, berry blue, and tangerine as well as grey and brown. They are also available with a mirror coating.

I am a rep.

[KrystleClear]

Whenever someone says no to adding Transitions to their lenses, I have been letting them know they expanded their color selection and I show them the new colors. A lot of times, especially with women, they change their mind. I have been selling the Transitions Sapphire and Amethyst a lot. I wish there were more vibrant colors. Rayban has a few photochromic lenses in their "Evolve" collection. Some go from clear to colored, and some start out with a medium tint that can be worn indoors and get darker in the sun. We just got one in that is a grey to pink gradient that gets darker in the sun. I want to buy it for myself so badly.

[KrystleClear]

Yes they do. Luzerne offers its FreeFocus SV and PALs Photo-Fashion in plum, chili pepper red, lemon yellow, green apple, berry blue, and tangerine as well as grey and brown. They are also available with a mirror coating.

I am a rep.

I had no idea that was a thing! I am totally going to order a SV with chili pepper red for myself.

[Don Gilman]

Are these actually Transitions or generic photochromics?

[Judy Canty]

Are these actually Transitions or generic photochromics?

Luzerne's PhotoFashion photochromics are available in our proprietary FreeFocus designs.
Transitions colors are available from us as well.
I am a rep.

[Fluegge Optical]

We have semi finished Red, orange, yellow, blue, green, and purple 1.56 as well as plano's. Just a FYI

[Kwill212]

Luzerne's PhotoFashion photochromics are available in our proprietary FreeFocus designs.
Transitions colors are available from us as well.
I am a rep.

These are IOT designs right?

[DanLiv]

Yes they do. Luzerne offers its FreeFocus SV and PALs Photo-Fashion in plum, chili pepper red, lemon yellow, green apple, berry blue, and tangerine as well as grey and brown. They are also available with a mirror coating.

I just opened my account with Luzerne and am ordering my demo kit, these look great!! Thanks Judy!

[Judy Canty]

Yes. Customized for Luzerne.

[Kwill212]

Yes. Customized for Luzerne.

I'm interested. Customized how? Also is the color chart Dan posted correct. Do the colors start with significant coloration then just get darker or do they go from clear to full colors?

[Fluegge Optical]

Yes

[Judy Canty]

I'm interested. Customized how? Also is the color chart Dan posted correct. Do the colors start with significant coloration then just get darker or do they go from clear to full colors?

As I stated, the designs are proprietary, which means that if I told you then I'd have to kill you. And yes, the colors pictured are accurate. There is a definite color and they darken from there. They come with our AGT A/R treatment and are also available with a mirror if wanted.

[Kwill212]

As I stated, the designs are proprietary, which means that if I told you then I'd have to kill you.

Wow, OK. So just the name of the lens is customized then, got it.

How do you expect educated optician to buy and or sell a lens if you aren't going to give them the information about it? It's not like I want you to send me a zip drive with the LMS/LDS files on it. You aren't even willing to explain what the end user difference between the stock IOT design and your "customized" version? Why would want want a FreeFocus lens over a Camber lens, or an Endless lens? Does Luzerne think it has improved the IOT designs, or have they cut back the design and are offered at a lower price point than a stock IOT design? What is the purpose of the customization? I don't think it a "proprietary" thing to tell people what your product does or doesn't do.

[Judy Canty]

Wow, OK. So just the name of the lens is customized then, got it.

How do you expect educated optician to buy and or sell a lens if you aren't going to give them the information about it? It's not like I want you to send me a zip drive with the LMS/LDS files on it. You aren't even willing to explain what the end user difference between the stock IOT design and your "customized" version? Why would want want a FreeFocus lens over a Camber lens, or an Endless lens? Does Luzerne think it has improved the IOT designs, or have they cut back the design and are offered at a lower price point than a stock IOT design? What is the purpose of the customization? I don't think it a "proprietary" thing to tell people what your product does or doesn't do.

I'm not going to play this game with you Kwill. Open an account. Try the lens. You get to decide how well it works. Simple.

[Kwill212]

Game? As a lab rep you can't or won't tell us about your lenses, or you don't know. None of those are very good. What an unreal response from a lab/lens rep. Don't you dare ask me any questions, just buy it!

[NAICITPO]

This is the account you want to open...

[Judy Canty]

Game? As a lab rep you can't or won't tell us about your lenses, or you don't know. None of those are very good. What an unreal response from a lab/lens rep. Don't you dare ask me any questions, just buy it!

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Feel better now? For future reference, I use my real name. You don't. I don't OWE you any information.

[Kwill212]

Feel better now?

I didn't feel bad to begin with, but the big copypasta tells us literally nothing we didn't already know. This is all bog standard IOT stuff and tells us nothing about the "proprietary" Luzerne versions of the lenses. I had one simple question. How, and for what purpose, has Luzerne customized the IOT designs? That's simply all I was curious about. If there is a better lens available, why wouldn't I want to know more about it. But for some reason you seem not willing to share. Most every manufacturer in any industry with a custom product is happy to tell the world about it, customer or not, especially since I'm not the only person reading the responses here.

For future reference, I use my real name. You don't. I don't OWE you any information.

Uh oh, red alert. Someone call the internet police, there's an anonymous person here! You don't owe me a thing, but if your going to promote your products I don't think it's out of line to ask some simple questions about them, and get a better response than, "it's a secret". Damn me and my questioning attitude.