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    Hoya lenses getting dirty quickly?

    I sold my grandparents a new pair a few months ago. They're complaining the lenses are getting dirty quickly, much more quickly than their previous pair (don't know the brand). One pair has Super HiVision EX3+ and the other Blue Control. I have only had a few customers complain about this. Most are very happy.

    Is anyone else getting this complaint? Does the Blue Control coating get dirty more quickly? Would it make a difference if I replace those with a 10% pink or brown tint?
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    Do this simple test to see if there is an effective top coat on the lenses. Take a piece of Scotch tape about 10 centimeter long. Attach 2 centimeters to the front of the lens and suspend it by the tape the weight of the glasses should pull the tape off. This will show If the top coat is oleophobic which makes it easy to clean and resist dirt.

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    The simplest methods to evaluate the hydrophobicity of a surface are the use of particular dyes that have a specific surface tension or alternatively drop a drop (2-3 mm) of DI water and evaluate its angle of support on the lens (low angles 60-80 ° of lens support mean low surface tension, high angles 105/115 °) excellent water repellency (usually also excellent liporepellence).
    The last time I found the Hoya products I found a 90-92 ° angle not bad but not the best (test made in Italy)

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    Turns out they've been cleaning them with Windex instead of the sprays I gave them... The oleophobic coating is most likely gone.

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    top coats based on PFA or PTFE normally resist almost all chemicals (but not wear and tear), silicone top coats have a lower seal and are removed by continuous washing with solvents

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    really helpful.Thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauro.Airoldi View Post
    top coats based on PFA or PTFE normally resist almost all chemicals (but not wear and tear), silicone top coats have a lower seal and are removed by continuous washing with solvents
    Which ones are Hoya coatings?

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    Knowing Hoya, whatever the absolute least expensive they could get their hands on for the biggest markup. Regardless of whatever else you can say about the Big E, at least the quality of their lenses tends to stand up under scrutiny. Threads like this are what make me glad I turned my back on Hoya and never went back. Stick with "E" or Zeiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airegin View Post
    Turns out they've been cleaning them with Windex instead of the sprays I gave them... The oleophobic coating is most likely gone.
    Long gone.

    Glad to hear it wasn't just a defect; Hoya ARs are among the best I've used.
    I'm Andrew Hamm and I approve this message.

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    I'm still wondering though: does Blue Control get dirty more quickly? I'm going to order new lenses tomorrow and I'm thinking 10% rose would be a good alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennethrobinson View Post
    If you have a problem regarding of a good lenses why not try to check out <link removed> They also a
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    Is this a joke? Are you lost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browman View Post
    Knowing Hoya, whatever the absolute least expensive they could get their hands on for the biggest markup. Regardless of whatever else you can say about the Big E, at least the quality of their lenses tends to stand up under scrutiny. Threads like this are what make me glad I turned my back on Hoya and never went back. Stick with "E" or Zeiss.

    That's the exact opposite of my experience.

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    Kwill212, it's nothing but spam. As a suggestion, it would be best to edit your post so you don't actually give them what they want, which is free advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelarep View Post
    Kwill212, it's nothing but spam. As a suggestion, it would be best to edit your post so you don't actually give them what they want, which is free advertising.
    Yes, clearly I can tell it's spam, as I assume everyone else here can as well.

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    Yet another pair of lenses a victim of windex. Thats a bummer!

    Windex is good at cleaing spam grease though.

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    Great thread. There's always something to learn here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davies View Post
    Great thread. There's always something to learn here.
    I agree.

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