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    Quote Originally Posted by bta89 View Post
    Basically you can still use Essilor products you will just get 50% reimbursement. Isn't Vision Source owned by Essilor? I think they are and I would find it hard to believe that Vision Source is going to let you switch. It doesn't make sense for Essilor to make you switch. Question for you ABOC14, are you even allowed to use non essilor products? Are you even able to order a hoya lens or unity? How about AR, do you even use anything other the Crizal. Just curious.
    We can use other labs if wanted, we just better prices with Essilor and our private label products, at even better prices.

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    It will be interesting to see what happens. I see both sides of the story, VSP and Essilor. I would assume with Essilor, very few of their places, Vision Source, Lenscrafters ect. use to many non essilor. I'm sure they have the option but the price difference is too great to not use essilor. I see VSP's side as well. I don't know what the perfect answer is, but it will be interesting to see what happens. It might not be Essilux vs VSP for dominance now. Only time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bta89 View Post
    It will be interesting to see what happens. I see both sides of the story, VSP and Essilor. I would assume with Essilor, very few of their places, Vision Source, Lenscrafters ect. use to many non essilor. I'm sure they have the option but the price difference is too great to not use essilor. I see VSP's side as well. I don't know what the perfect answer is, but it will be interesting to see what happens. It might not be Essilux vs VSP for dominance now. Only time will tell.
    Thats my thought as well. VSP/Marchon/Hoya-Zeiss vs Eyemed/Luxottica/Essilor

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    Our office relies heavy on Essilor and Shamir products, I am interested in seeing how this all plays out.

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    Our office is talking to a VSP One rep next week.

    Any serious questions you want asked?

    Just a reminder- yesterday an Altair frame was $4 under-priced on their auto-filled cost. This can, and recently for me did, affect an up-charge- so be vigilant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    Our office is talking to a VSP One rep next week.

    Any serious questions you want asked?

    Just a reminder- yesterday an Altair frame was $4 under-priced on their auto-filled cost. This can, and recently for me did, affect an up-charge- so be vigilant!
    Will ordering Hoya products through VSPOne be available or will we be charged differently than going directly from Hoya?

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    Here's a thread from a couple years ago. Post #8 relates to ABOC's questions.

    There is one from late 2018 or early 2019 that I can't find. It discussed HOYA's big push to get VSP business. Anyone know how to search better than I do?

    (I miss Chris)
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    I'm pretty sure that you can order HOYA through VSPOne. Now VSPOne might have an upcharge, but that would be something you would have to talk to a specific lab about. I know that ordering HOYA products from VSPOne seems to take a little longer than just ordering straight from HOYA. I've even noticed that the VSPOne labs that we use all have different prices. Someone mentioned to me that Essilux is trying to sue VSP for antitrust or something. I tried finding some more information but couldn't. I can't imagine that it will go very far. I thought that Essilor/Luxottica merger would cause some sort of monopoly problems but it didn't. I'm not sure what to believe from VSP or Essilux. The best I can do is wait for something to happen. I guess we have two more months to figure out what will happen.

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    I was told by someone in VSP that their recent acquisition and expansion into retail has stressed their labs The decision was made to offer the option to use " approved labs". I do see lower re-imbursement rates coming as well. VSP has bitten off more than they can chew...my opinion

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    I was told by VSP rep that the VisionWerks has its own lab capacity.

    I think the stress is from forced layoffs.

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