check your RX at home in minutes .............................

[Chris Ryser]

See all about it:


Self Measurement Device Unveiled at CES 2019

in LasVegas last week



See all of it :

https://www.optiboard.com/forums/showthread.php/69652-VisionCheck-awarded-CES-2019-Innovations-Honoree

[Bcopt]

Awesome but they will start shipping in March

[Chris Ryser]

The instrument is probably made in China ...............................

Awesome but they will start shipping in March

....................who cares, and so far they have no competition on the market.

The instrument is probably made in China and they had to order a certain quantity and will get the stock in by somewhere in late February. I guess that it could become a good selleras the news has been flashing aound the optical world.

[drk]

It's not a "Rx" if there's no doctor signature.

You mean, "check your vision". It says so on the device.


I applaud the device. Now the numbskulls that are DIY opticians can be DIY optometrists, and leave me alone.

[Chris Ryser]

drk.............................they will leave you alone for another 2 months,

It's not a "Rx" if there's no doctor signature.

You mean, "check your vision". It says so on the device.


I applaud the device. Now the numbskulls that are DIY opticians can be DIY optometrists, and leave me alone.

..............................look at the other side, what this could or can do in the real world that has just waited for such a device.

Any sunglass stand in your drugstore or shopping center kiosk, can now have a "check your vision" instrument and will start selling sunglasses with prescription lenses, made in labs that are just waiting for more businesses.

Opticians in non regulated states will have a "VisionCheck" instrument or several, on location, and get the "lens powers" right on the spot.

Online opticals will be the best promoters for the instrument.

drk.............................they will leave you alone for another 2 months and then it will slowly start to make its way into the optical retail trade and some of it into private hands. During the next 12 month we should see some reactions by the public as well as the professionals.

[johnwilson]

Thanks, I'll check it out. Does it ship to Quebec?

[drk]

..............................look at the other side, what this could or can do in the real world that has just waited for such a device.

Any sunglass stand in your drugstore or shopping center kiosk, can now have a "check your vision" instrument and will start selling sunglasses with prescription lenses, made in labs that are just waiting for more businesses.

Opticians in non regulated states will have a "VisionCheck" instrument or several, on location, and get the "lens powers" right on the spot.

Online opticals will be the best promoters for the instrument.

drk.............................they will leave you alone for another 2 months and then it will slowly start to make its way into the optical retail trade and some of it into private hands. During the next 12 month we should see some reactions by the public as well as the professionals.

Again, can a machine prescribe? Then they won't be prescription.

They may be "tailored" or "customized" but not prescription.

All the yahoos that don't do what I have done for thirty years think they can do this. IMMA TELLIN' YA THEY CAN'T.

So I'm getting out the popcorn bag emoji.

Garbage in, garbage out.

The engineering of a cheap autorefractor is perhaps a nice development. But face it, there are laws against "have autorefractor in store, can prescribe to my heart's content", right now. And there is enough optometric money to keep it illegal in my state, at least.

I'm sure, though, that they'll try to put these cheap autorefractors in GP MDs offices (having found a license to exploit) who will get some kind of referral spiff to have a kiosk (like an ATM machine in a gas station convenience store).

But put it in Sunglass Hut and it'll be shut down.

[drk]

Oh my gosh. It looks like it's merely a piece of plastic to keep your eye a set distance from a phone.

For $59.99.

It's not even a refracting device.

https://www.eyeque.com/

[mervinek]

bahahaha That's great!

Oh my gosh. It looks like it's merely a piece of plastic to keep your eye a set distance from a phone.

For $59.99.

It's not even a refracting device.

https://www.eyeque.com/

[Chris Ryser]

............... so why would you want it in Quebec ?

Thanks, I'll check it out. Does it ship to Quebec?

I do not know if it ships to Quebec, you will have to contact them .....................................

Then, by the way, your location is listed: Los Angeles, ........................... so why would you want it in Quebec ?

[Chris Ryser]

You just made the first comment ...........................

Garbage in, garbage out.

The engineering of a cheap autorefractor is perhaps a nice development. But face it, there are laws against "have autorefractor in store, can prescribe to my heart's content", right now. And there is enough optometric money to keep it illegal in my state, at least.

I'm sure, though, that they'll try to put these cheap autorefractors in GP MDs offices (having found a license to exploit) who will get some kind of referral spiff to have a kiosk (like an ATM machine in a gas station convenience store).

But put it in Sunglass Hut and it'll be shut down.

drk...............................interesting

You just made the first comment for not letting it come on the market and being used .

Similar comments were made when the online opticals started to pop up on the web, which now claim to have 14% of the optical retail sales.

The *CheckQue* does not claim to be an autorefractor, but to be a measuring instrument.

[johnwilson]

I do not know if it ships to Quebec, you will have to contact them .....................................

Then, by the way, your location is listed: Los Angeles, ........................... so why would you want it in Quebec ?

I'm from Canada man. But I work in LA. My family lives there so it makes sense to ship it right there. I don't need it as much as they do.

[drk]

drk...............................interesting

You just made the first comment for not letting it come on the market and being used .

Similar comments were made when the online opticals started to pop up on the web, which now claim to have 14% of the optical retail sales.

The *CheckQue* does not claim to be an autorefractor, but to be a measuring instrument.

1. Marketing claims notwitstanding, legislators that are educated can see through the fluff.

2. "Not letting it come on the market" is better conceptualized as "they are flying in the face of existing law, so enforcement is needed."

3. Yes, online opticals are difficult because they are trans-national and private transactions.

I maintain, however, that, for example, in my state, any Ohio-based online optical selling glasses to Ohio citizens is in violation of Ohio's dispensing regulations.


The bottom line is patient safety. Otherwise we can de-regulate health care to save a buck.

Unfortunately, there is a push towards "free medical care" in the west, so that is the zeitgeist...not quality care, nor appropriate regulation.

But enforcement funding changes, and for actions there are equal and opposite reactions. Pendulums swing. It is surely too slow.

Remember the biitching about HMOs in the '90's?

[Chris Ryser]

You got a a good point, but does it help in reality ? .............................

1. Marketing claims notwitstanding, legislators that are educated can see through the fluff.

2. "Not letting it come on the market" is better conceptualized as "they are flying in the face of existing law, so enforcement is needed."

3. Yes, online opticals are difficult because they are trans-national and private transactions.

I maintain, however, that, for example, in my state, any Ohio-based online optical selling glasses to Ohio citizens is in violation of Ohio's dispensing regulations.

You got a a good point, but does it help in reality ? here is what happened in Ontario one year ago, and we have not heard any news since then..................................

Essilor hit with online ban
Author: Luke Haynes
Published: 19/01/2018

Essilor Canada and its retail portal Clearly haveOntario College of Optometrists and the College of Opticians,successfully applied for an injunction.

The regulatory colleges filed for the injunction in December 2016 and the matter was heard in October 2017, with a verdict reached last week.



source:
https://www.opticianonline.net/news/...ith-online-ban

Total silence on the subject for one full year as far as I can see.

As far as I can see "Clearly" must be continuing their sales into Ontario without objections and court cases.

[Chris Ryser]

..............and here is one that the optical retail trade lost

.................................and here is another one were the professions lost against Essilor:

Clearly has been keen to engage in dialogue with optometrists and opticians across Canada to find areas of collaboration and provide better products to their customers. The company shares its passion for promoting vision as a universal right with ECPs. Clearly will continue promoting regular eye exams through qualified ECPs and instilling the importance of eye health alongside their product offering.

Clearly is well-known in Canada for accessibility, affordability and quality.Recently they have also been focused on their quality of service. This includes in-house opticians in their call centre available to answer questions and determine what’s best for the vision of the consumer. This is built on the company’s foundation that every employee is a Vision Ambassador, trained specifically to provide the best customer service, product knowledge and understanding of the importance of eye health.

https://www.optiboard.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=524629

...............................so the question is : how much is that professional protection worth these days in a commercial world, that is on a racetrac of fast change in every commercial field ?

Are the professional legal protections that were created in the last century out of date, and can be bypassed by political know how, or cash money ?

How many more similar cases across thei continent are in the works ? There is total silence and nobody in the professional law protections field, fights for what they stand for.