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    free form lab, how much am I looking at $$$ wise?

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    First post, 35 year optician lab monkey.

    Looking to get some kind of idea about the price ranges of free form systems out there. I work in a small 2 store practice, owned by 3 doctors. One doctor is close to retiring and wants to keep the status quo. The other 2 are looking at a Zeiss bill that increases monthly and want to reduce the cost of goods. Zeiss bill is yearly around $400k with roughly 60%AR and 40% non AR

    I want to propose to them gettting into free form for the non AR stuff, let Zeiss do the AR stuff even though Ithink our yearly bill could warrant installing AR. But, I don't want to get in too deep.

    I don't get to go to Vision Expo to get prices on these things, "Scotty" usually has to stay home and monitor the "Enterprise". AND you can't find prices just anywhere.

    Before I make a complete *** of myself, I'm trying to get some basic info at what I'm looking at. Have a Coburn SGX lab, 15 years old. Thiking of getting a system to do the non ARfree form we let Zeiss do and also start doing private label free form for the stuff we currently use conventional progressives, reduce inventory and cost.

    I get the impression, maybe falsely, that Coburn is probably the least expensive route to go with the European companies pricier. Not looking for hard numbers, just ballpark estimates from some with more experience. Thx in advance and I look forward to our conversation!

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    Check out Schneider and SatisLoh. Both have small lab solutions that are pre qualified for most FF designs, including AR. Coburn is very cost effective, but may not be pre qualified for all designs.
    Once you talk with all three, you can make your decision. You might also want to check out Quantim for AR needs.

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    "small" 2 store practices do not have a lab bill of 400K. Was that a typo?
    A digital surfacing lab is pointless without AR capabilities. You are selling the patients the value of free form designs and then negating the vision benefits by foregoing AR coating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarMadison View Post
    Hello-
    First post, 35 year optician lab monkey.

    Looking to get some kind of idea about the price ranges of free form systems out there. I work in a small 2 store practice, owned by 3 doctors. One doctor is close to retiring and wants to keep the status quo. The other 2 are looking at a Zeiss bill that increases monthly and want to reduce the cost of goods. Zeiss bill is yearly around $400k with roughly 60%AR and 40% non AR
    Get a different wholesale lab, and use lenses other than Zeiss'. The labs are usually happy to send a price list.

    A Free-form lab is going to set you back a lot, and it's a mistake to get into it if you aren't willing to do the AR coatings. The big savings won't be there, and you'll use a lot of time making the lenses.

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    THx for all the replies. AND, no, 400k was not a typo. Personally, I'd love to do AR, don't know if I can convince the powers that be. BUt, I agree, it makes total sense to me as well. Just trying to get some feedback to help make some changes in our practice so every opinion is valid and appreciated. I realize a free form lab is going to set me back "A lot", I am trying to narrow down what "a lot" is so I can really look at our numbers and see how much of a difference it will make to us.

    AND, I must also add, that while AR does have great benefits but it also comes with great drawbacks. It isn't for every patient and because they are not getting AR doesn't mean they won't appreciate a new free form design.

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    Oscar, I sent you a PM with some numbers. Hope it helps.

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