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    Anti-Slip Discs Search

    We order stock lenses from Vision Ease stock and when I order Hi-Index 1.67 they send me very specific anti-slip pads that are INCREDIBLE! I am serious guys, these are so amazing, not even a high minus with a mirror coating and backside AR will slip! I called and asked what brand it was because I'd rather discontinue the usage of the ones I am using and only use these magically stickies. They first send me a small supply of the wrong ones, when I called to ask for the other ones, they acted like they had NO IDEA what I was talking about. I then ordered a 1.67 lens and BAM my magical stickies were in the box. I have called around for them, I checked OptiSource and a few other optical supply sites. So no one carries these and Vision Ease claims that they have discontinued this anti-slip disc. DOES ANYONE OUT THERE KNOW WHAT THESE ARE AND WHERE I CAN ORDER THEM IN BULK?!
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    They are the best on the market. I've tried several other brands that look like those but did not perform as well. I believe I would order from the Hoya Lab in Dallas.

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    Funny

    So I actually love the orange one you have in the background (who we used to get from vision ease all the time). We now get the ones you are displaying and clear stickies with a blue tab. I prefer the blue tabbed ones over the one's you are showing as I've had a few jobs slip so I vowed to never use them again whereas with the orange and blue tabbed ones I've never had a slip. We use a Mr. Blue-which I'm sure has an effect on the slippage vs. what you may be using. Also, vision ease has at least two main offices. So you calling the office instead of the lab where they ship the non-slip discs was probably why they had no clue what you were talking about lol.

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    You might want to contact Younger. Their discs are great, and probably the same as the ones VE provides.

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    Bwahahaha! Good luck. We tried everyone. In the end, our very cool Younger rep got us a handful from the guy who actually does all the packaging but still didn't give us an option to buy in bulk. Apparently, they are hidden away at the end of the rainbow.
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    I do really like the orange ones for more minor jobs. I am edging with a National Optronics HLP 7E... kind of old technology... so I have a really bad slipping problem with most lenses. Are the blue tabbed ones you mentioned the ones that are clear with the ever-so-slightly blue tinted tabs that VE sends with their venue jobs? I like those, but I still find mirrors and high minus slipping like crazy.
    Do you know where I can get the orange ones? When I call VE, I almost always demand to speak to Bev in the lab. She rocks!

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    Hmm... maybe I will check to see if my office has an account with Younger and just demand all the wonderful magical stickies! Apparently these are just some crazy obscure anti-slip disc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonlarae View Post
    I do really like the orange ones for more minor jobs. I am edging with a National Optronics HLP 7E... kind of old technology... so I have a really bad slipping problem with most lenses. Are the blue tabbed ones you mentioned the ones that are clear with the ever-so-slightly blue tinted tabs that VE sends with their venue jobs? I like those, but I still find mirrors and high minus slipping like crazy.
    Do you know where I can get the orange ones? When I call VE, I almost always demand to speak to Bev in the lab. She rocks!

    Are you cutting on the slowest and or highest quality mode? And yes those are the blue VE discs I'm talking about. I'm not sure where to get the orange-we used to get them sent with jobs from VE but they switched to the clear blueish ones. We also have an old kappa edger that slips even with a slip disc sometimes because I think the technology is old. Have you tried putting a slip disc on both sides of the lens? Where you block it and where the chuck lands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonlarae View Post
    Hmm... maybe I will check to see if my office has an account with Younger and just demand all the wonderful magical stickies! Apparently these are just some crazy obscure anti-slip disc!
    We use anti slip spray and 3M LSE pads on our 7Es. PM me and I will send you our settings that work well for us, even on the HLP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedeye View Post
    Are you cutting on the slowest and or highest quality mode? And yes those are the blue VE discs I'm talking about. I'm not sure where to get the orange-we used to get them sent with jobs from VE but they switched to the clear blueish ones. We also have an old kappa edger that slips even with a slip disc sometimes because I think the technology is old. Have you tried putting a slip disc on both sides of the lens? Where you block it and where the chuck lands?
    Yes! I use basically this formula: Blocking Chuck- Leap 3 Blocking Pad - anti-slip disc - lens - anti-slip disc - and on high minus, National Optronics told me to put a blocking pad on the back. My settings are all set by national optronics, because I call them and ask for the lab specialist and they gave me the best settings and blocking methods for my lenses. To be honest though, I have been using a Blue Chip Lens Protector instead of an anti-slip disc and I just found out that those don't help with slippages, it's only for the back side to prevent scratches in the process of edging the lens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lensmanmd View Post
    We use anti slip spray and 3M LSE pads on our 7Es. PM me and I will send you our settings that work well for us, even on the HLP.
    National Optronics actually helped me set the settings on my edger, but I am curious to see what yours are set at, and how you like the anti-slip sprays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonlarae View Post
    National Optronics actually helped me set the settings on my edger, but I am curious to see what yours are set at, and how you like the anti-slip sprays?
    A long time ago in a place far far away we used to spray the lens with hair spray before we blocked the lens using lead and a mold that formed the edging block. Worked great and we were forming a block only about 5mmX10mm so not much holding area

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    I remember well. We used Madam Walker hair spray and LMPA alloy and never had a problem. Well, almost never. I was drawing some alloy from the reclaim tank when the spigot separated from the tank body and dumped ten pounds of molten alloy on my brand new wingtips. Just try getting alloy out of all those little holes.

    But we never had any slippage of lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbaker View Post
    I remember well. We used Madam Walker hair spray and LMPA alloy and never had a problem. Well, almost never. I was drawing some alloy from the reclaim tank when the spigot separated from the tank body and dumped ten pounds of molten alloy on my brand new wingtips. Just try getting alloy out of all those little holes.

    But we never had any slippage of lenses.
    Been there done that. I still have a pair with 20 year old allow still attached.

    Never used hairspray on lenses before, though as a product of the 80’s, plenty of it was used. I have paid the price of that excess, as I have little hair left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbaker View Post
    I remember well. We used Madam Walker hair spray and LMPA alloy and never had a problem. Well, almost never. I was drawing some alloy from the reclaim tank when the spigot separated from the tank body and dumped ten pounds of molten alloy on my brand new wingtips. Just try getting alloy out of all those little holes.

    But we never had any slippage of lenses.

    This broke my heart because I am assuming by "wingtips" you're referring to beautiful shoes. I am sorry that happened to you. Did you really use Hairspray on the lenses? LOL I should try some good old Aquanet!

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    Yah. They were a nice new pair Wingtip Bluchers. Cost me a months pay. We did indeed use hair spray for blocking glass lenses prior to blocking for surfacing and edging. We also used pitch for blocking and the occasional lap. This was "back in the day" in the fifties and sixties before the use of polymer lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lensmanmd View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonlarae View Post
    This broke my heart because I am assuming by "wingtips" you're referring to beautiful shoes. I am sorry that happened to you. Did you really use Hairspray on the lenses? LOL I should try some good old Aquanet!
    We keep a bottle of Aquanet in the lab for just this reason. The Traction Control spray from... I want to say Dynamics? is much better but quite expensive in comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quince View Post
    We keep a bottle of Aquanet in the lab for just this reason. The Traction Control spray from... I want to say Dynamics? is much better but quite expensive in comparison.
    Its Optisource with the spray I believe.
    Dynamic however has the end all be all of antislip film imho DynagripXtreme. I don't know how anything could be better. I haven't had a slipped lens in years. At all. Ever. Even thick trivex st28s with hydro ar, just cut the film in half - one above the ledge, one below.

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