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    Crossed Cylinder Concept (HELP)

    Does anyone have a VISUAL, mechanical, or "3D" teaching aid for crossed cylinder?
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    Does anyone have a clear step-by-step "Crossed Cylinders for Dummies (me)"

    If you do would you please just email me direct at: johnseegers at laramyk dot com.

    Thanks

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    If you Google "Jackson cross cylinder" you will find about a million citations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbaker View Post
    If you Google "Jackson cross cylinder" you will find about a million citations.
    I'm looking for how it relates to the optical cross, toric transposition and drawing lens power/position.

    Not the refraction - optometry stuff.

    Plenty of three-step drawings of sphere (combined with) cylinder becomes this ________

    But nothing that really explains why our sphere becomes 0.00 and power (combined with) 0.00 and power.

    A sphere is a sphere - and a cylinder is a cylinder.

    I'm missing the point where a nice -2.00 sphere transforms to being 0.00 -2.00 for the sake of cross-cylinder.

    I'm missing something and if I can't visualize it I can't grasp it.

    I don't even have a rational starting point to build from.

    Could someone give me a realistic day-to-day example of it?

    Let's say you received the following ________________________.

    How would you take that information and create a working Rx that another optician would recognize

    I have some worksheets but nothing that gives me a good reason WHY we do it or need it.

    Sure I can follow the steps as outlined and end up back at the Rx given but that doesn't help explain the why just the how.

    I need the why!

    Sorry - hope that helps.
    John

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    Redhot Jumper Determining cylinder power .....................................

    Determining cylinder power

    Two questions should be asked to determine thecylinder power:

    1. In what direction on the number line is traveloccurring (on the number line) from the sphere to thecylinder (either in the negative direction or in thepositive direction)?

    2. What is the distance traveled from the sphere to thecylinder power (the amount of cylinder present in theprescription)?

    see also:
    http://www.ooa.org/aws/OOA/asset_man.../110761?ver=83

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    Redhot Jumper

    This one has several solutions, take your pick


    https://www.google.ca/search?q=cross...w=1280&bih=592

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    Page 1: Example from a student notebook. Sure, follow the steps and you end up back at the Rx. So what. WHY do you need to do this?

    Page 2: Example from Geometric Optics book. Sphere COMBINES WITH Cylinder the usual three-step drawing.

    Now can we put these two together some how?

    A real-world example?


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