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    Redhot Jumper We ask: what types of ownership and partnership structures currently exist?

    Ownership and Opportunity: Who’s squeezing who in optical retail?

    Optical retail has not escaped these changes, although it is perhaps behind the trends rather than leading them. This article analyzes the current optical retail landscape and muses about the future. We ask: what types of ownership and partnership structures currently exist? Where is the growth? Are independents on their way out? How do consolidation and vertical integration affect other players? How will Internet retail shake out? And what does all this structural change mean for eyecare professionals, especially new graduates from opticianry and optometry programs?

    See the whole article: ========>
    http://www.envisionmagazine.ca/featu...optical-retail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ryser View Post
    Ownership and Opportunity: Who’s squeezing who in optical retail?

    Optical retail has not escaped these changes, although it is perhaps behind the trends rather than leading them. This article analyzes the current optical retail landscape and muses about the future. We ask: what types of ownership and partnership structures currently exist? Where is the growth? Are independents on their way out? How do consolidation and vertical integration affect other players? How will Internet retail shake out? And what does all this structural change mean for eyecare professionals, especially new graduates from opticianry and optometry programs?

    See the whole article: ========>
    http://www.envisionmagazine.ca/featu...optical-retail
    Interesting article, but dates back to 2014. It's always entertaining to see how the spin doctors weave their web and spoon feed it to the industry with a sheepish grin.

    Truth be told, as we all know there's strength in numbers. If independent ECP's could ever swallow their pride and muster up enough volume, the cooperative method is really the best way to ensure value and long term survival.

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    Blue Jumper There is tons of information on the web ...................

    Quote Originally Posted by Lab Insight View Post

    Interesting article, but dates back to 2014.


    There is tons of information on the web that is of historic value and we never heard of it.

    .............and the optical landscape is moving on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ryser View Post
    There is tons of information on the web that is of historic value and we never heard of it.

    .............and the optical landscape is moving on and on.
    It will always change and stay in motion. The motion always moves faster than the adapted change.

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    Redhot Jumper lenses – anyone can legally dispense them. ........................

    Quote Originally Posted by Lab Insight View Post

    It will always change and stay in motion. The motion always moves faster than the adapted change.

    Good point................and here is a change of just about 6 years ago,



    In 2010 the BC government, against the advice of optometrists, ophthalmologists and opticians, unilaterally changed the eye care legislation in that province

    Opticians can perform sight tests and order glasses

    Patients no longer require a valid prescription to order glasses or contact
    lenses – anyone can legally dispense them.

    BC optometrists are obliged to provide a PD with their Rx


    source: ========> University of Montreal
    https://www.google.ca/#q=Name+provin...en+deregulated

    ............and where are the motions and
    results these days ?

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    Altough id love to dive into that one Steve made a post awhile back about not discussing BC's laws and whatnot so ill leave that one alone

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    Redhot Jumper I believe you are slightly mistaken............................

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    Altough id love to dive into that one Steve made a post awhile back about not discussing BC's laws and whatnot so ill leave that one alone

    I believe you are slightly mistaken. It had to do with the arguments of schooling in BC, not with deregulation of the optical profession, which is getting more and more acute these days, as it is a highly progressive matter.

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    that makes more sense then. my mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc17777 View Post

    that makes more sense then. my mistake

    good, so then dive in and make the comments you wanted to make .........

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    I am still just confused how they could change the legislation to allow patients to order pretty much whatever the hell they want without a valid perscription. Totally mind boggling. Just really hoping that the rest of Canada doesnt jump on board

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc17777 View Post

    I am still just confused how they could change the legislation to allow patients to order pretty much whatever the hell they want without a valid perscription. Totally mind boggling. Just really hoping that the rest of Canada doesnt jump on board
    The rest of Canada is already on board. You must have seen the online ads by "Coastal" (belonging to Essilor) for the last few years?

    They are located in Vancouver and are not regulated. Send them an Rx and you will get it in the mail or delivery anywhere.

    check it out : ===========>
    http://www.coastal.com

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    But yet it is still illegal to dispense glasses and contacts without an rx in every other province. That is why coastal has to operate out of Vancouver. Its only a matter of time until people realize how much these online glasses are screwing up their vision with improper mesurements and whatnot. Lets just hope that happens before more provinces jump on board with BC

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    Blue Jumper online glasses are screwing up their vision .........................

    Quote Originally Posted by jc17777 View Post


    Its only a matter of time until people realize how much these online glasses are screwing up their vision with improper mesurements and whatnot.

    Every online website in the optical has a section of how to arrive at the proper measurements.

    They provide also guarantee of a full money refund if something is wrong.

    Furthermore Essilor paid a few hundred million Dollars to purchase "Coastal" and has purchased a few other ones since.

    I would assume that they know what they are doing.
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    I feel like you're just trying to play devils advocate here. Essilor just like Luxottica seems to be under the assumption that Opticians are redundant and dont need to be regulated or even used. I wonder if they could somehow do some type of study to show how many jobs that come back from clearly or sites like it have induced prism in them due to improper measurements done by the patient or what the return percentage is of jobs that patients just dont like the frame or have issues ect

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    Blue Jumper I am sure they have all that information on hand ...........................

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    I wonder if they could somehow do some type of study to show how many jobs that come back from clearly or sites like it have induced prism in them due to improper measurements done by the patient or what the return percentage is of jobs that patients just dont like the frame or have issues ect

    I am sure they have all that information on hand, but you and me including all the others will never know.

    However that type of very aggressive corporations will find a way to measure a PD by just looking at the computer screen
    and the computer will cough up all the information and maybe even transmit it to their lab.

    They have all the resources at their fingertips to come up with something valid that works good at long distance.

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    maybe for basic prescriptions. But having a high rx or any type of mutifocal where an oc ht or seg ht is going to make a big difference will never be measured accurately from a computer screen. It wont take into account chin placement how the patient uses there normal every day vision or even how the glasses properly sit on the patient considering the bridge on a plastic might not fit exactly flush. It also doesnt help that these patients have no where to go for adjustments and since most of these frames are discounted frames alot of places(especially lenscrafters who wont even touch a frame not from them) wont do any adjustments for these patients. That as well as that glasses have become a huge fasion accessory and that patients love to try them on in person doesnt have me to worried about the general market

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc17777 View Post

    It also doesnt help that these patients have no where to go for adjustments and since most of these frames are discounted frames alot of places(especially lenscrafters who wont even touch a frame not from them) wont do any adjustments for these patients.

    Lux is now selling through Oakley and some other sites on the internet. Essilor has a whole bunch of them.

    All online opticals haven planned to up sales 10% from the 24 Million $ they sold in 2015 for this year.

    They will not be going away.

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