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    Independent Labs with in house Crizal

    It would be greatly appreciated if you could name any lab you know with in house Crizal capabilities that is not owned by or partnered with the big E.

    The only one I know is Luzerne, but I would imagine there are others?

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    We at IcareLabs have in house Crizal. Some other labs that I am aware of are Expert Optics, Cherry Optical Green Bay, and Walman Optical.

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    Luzerne has produced Crizal in-house for several years. We are also now producing Varilux S in-house.

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    US Optical does Crizal Alize, Avance Crizal Sun , OptiFog and Prevencia inhouse . 24-48 hours. We can do it on most brands of lenses using Essilor approved blanks.
    Money carefully refunded

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    So, I'm just curious, why do you want Crizal if you're concerned about it being an Essilor-owned lab? Since it's an Essilor product either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by other_bill_fea View Post
    So, I'm just curious, why do you want Crizal if you're concerned about it being an Essilor-owned lab? Since it's an Essilor product either way.
    We use an E lab but use the no-name AR that is created in the same machines! It cost me 1/3 the price and we have never had an issue.

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    OptiCraft Portland Oregon, not sure if they are an Essilor lab but they do all of the Crizal coatings, IMO good old Alize is the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outkast View Post
    OptiCraft Portland Oregon, not sure if they are an Essilor lab but they do all of the Crizal coatings, IMO good old Alize is the best
    Opticraft is an Essilor Lab http://www.opticraft-optical.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jspayneii View Post
    We at IcareLabs have in house Crizal. Some other labs that I am aware of are Expert Optics, Cherry Optical Green Bay, and Walman Optical.
    I thought Cherry partnered or was bought?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeOptics View Post
    I thought Cherry partnered or was bought?
    There are Two Cherry Opticals, one in Green Bay Wisconsin, and one in Melvindale, Michigan. The one in Wisconsin is still independent. The one in Michigan sold to the Big E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jspayneii View Post
    There are Two Cherry Opticals, one in Green Bay Wisconsin, and one in Melvindale, Michigan. The one in Wisconsin is still independent. The one in Michigan sold to the Big E.
    Adam Cherry Rocks!
    The quality and service is unbelievable!

    PS I dont work for Cherry:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outkast;
    IMO good old Alize is the best
    Why do you think it's better than Avance?

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    Three Rivers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by other_bill_fea View Post
    So, I'm just curious, why do you want Crizal if you're concerned about it being an Essilor-owned lab? Since it's an Essilor product either way.
    I know E will crush us if we let it happen, and I see that E is destroying some of the best lab "partners" they have teamed up with. I have tried dozens and dozens of AR. Regardless of what anyone posts on here, I find that 95% of them are significantly inferior to Cri zal. The cheapest Cri zal lens holds up much better and cleans much easier than the most expensive from many many other brands.

    I am never married to any brand names. I want whats best for my patients. If it is Off-label optical or Zeissilor or what ever makes no difference. But I want to provide quality. Ideally, I would like to find a top notch lab that can do just about anything in-house with Crizal capabilities that also runs their own no-name AR through the same machines using the same process...

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    Independent? Just kidding themselves. That's like which independents have veriluxes. They have already given up their independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak47 View Post
    I know E will crush us if we let it happen, and I see that E is destroying some of the best lab "partners" they have teamed up with. I have tried dozens and dozens of AR. Regardless of what anyone posts on here, I find that 95% of them are significantly inferior to Cri zal. The cheapest Cri zal lens holds up much better and cleans much easier than the most expensive from many many other brands.

    I am never married to any brand names. I want whats best for my patients. If it is Off-label optical or Zeissilor or what ever makes no difference. But I want to provide quality. Ideally, I would like to find a top notch lab that can do just about anything in-house with Crizal capabilities that also runs their own no-name AR through the same machines using the same process...
    I was told today that the Luzerne EVC is runs through the same equipment as the Essilor coatings and is "very similar" to Crizal Easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    We use an E lab but use the no-name AR that is created in the same machines! It cost me 1/3 the price and we have never had an issue.
    My car wash offers about 10 different options through the same line.

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    I have seen Avance break down in a matter of just over two years, I have never seen an Alize lens that has crazed or got the orange peel look as we call it and it has better hydrophobe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jefe View Post
    I was told today that the Luzerne EVC is runs through the same equipment as the Essilor coatings and is "very similar" to Crizal Easy.
    They all do!

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    Once they get Crizal in house, an indepenent is on the big E radar and won't be independent for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opticaldiva View Post
    Once they get Crizal in house, an indepenent is on the big E radar and won't be independent for long.
    But...friend Essilor would NEVER do that!

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    Luzerne was one of the first independent labs to produce Crizal products in-house and is still independent, family-owned and proud of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LENNY View Post
    Adam Cherry Rocks!
    The quality and service is unbelievable!

    PS I dont work for Cherry:)

    I agree... And I don't work for Cherry either....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy Canty View Post
    Luzerne was one of the first independent labs to produce Crizal products in-house and is still independent, family-owned and proud of it.

    For now.

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    We use Expert Optics. They have 3 in house coaters, including Crizal. They are too independent and healthy to even consider a buyout. Even though they've been on the big E's radar for years.
    Quote Originally Posted by opticaldiva View Post
    Once they get Crizal in house, an indepenent is on the big E radar and won't be independent for long.
    The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

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