This -9.25D CYL is one BAD *** Optical job!

**Barry Santini** · 02-12-2014, 06:01 PM

So...

Longterm client in his 30's constantly complaing that his glasses don't let him see well.

First came in years ago with another Dr.'s (OMD) Rx:

R +3.00 -3.25 x 15
L +4.00 -6.75 x 176

First made aspheric poly 9 years ago.

Then optician (me) tweaked (axis) Rx 5 years ago in Auto II FF SV.

REVELATION!

Next, OD Rx from outside (on referral):

R +2.75 -4.50 x 10
L +4.25 -8.00 x 174

Again, made FF SV (IOT) and with new Rx...REVELATION!

Fast forward to Dec 2013: Now complaining glasses lost their acuity mojo shortly after the last pair made Dec 2010.

Ordered new pair to use flex dollars from 2013. I suggested he see my new, super talented In-house OD for a refraction.

New Rx:

R +2.75 -4.75 x 12
L +4.75 -9.25 x 176

Above Rx delivers 20/20 for each eye....look at the cyl OS!!

No K-cone. No corneal dystrophy. Just plain ol' cyl.

Now..every FF supplier I approach sayd "-9.25 cyl...can't do. Calcs ok, but beyond generator capability."

I decide to try Scott Balestreri of BAD "****" Optical. Several emails ensure. He has some satellite labs that he thinks can FF this...or we'll have to go back to traditional grind.

I have him pre-calc the job: panto = 6 and wrap = 5, and I review all for weird compensations. (I've found that high cyl wearers often prefer Refracted cyl as compared to compensated cyl. Go figure...I can't)

I'm spec'ing 4 or 5 base, 1.60 index.

Comes back : can only be done 1.67 and 4 base. Will be FF.

Rec'd lenses today, after approx 2 weeks.

ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL JOB! I edge in-house, and it is SMACK DAB on REFRACTED AXIS (Compensated axis only 1 degree different...go figure).

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Thank you for a job well done, Scott!

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**Uilleann** · 02-12-2014, 08:04 PM

Wow Barry - what was the eyesize of that frame? Thankfully, the axis helps out this job immensely! Imagine if that was a 90 on the OD! Gah!!

**Steve Machol** · 02-12-2014, 08:08 PM

Great job!

**Barry Santini** · 02-12-2014, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by uilleann

wow barry - what was the eyesize of that frame? Thankfully, the axis helps out this job immensely! Imagine if that was a 90 on the od! Gah!!

53/18; pd 31/32

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PS- thanks, Steve!

**opty4062** · 02-12-2014, 09:29 PM

Beautiful job!

**Wild bill** · 02-12-2014, 10:30 PM

What generator was this job one on?

**Happylady** · 02-12-2014, 11:05 PM

Nice!

**PRECISIONLAB** · 02-12-2014, 11:10 PM

Excellent craftsmanship

**Rafael** · 02-13-2014, 01:23 AM

Great Job

**becc971** · 02-13-2014, 08:09 AM

that is pretty!!!

**CCGREEN** · 02-13-2014, 09:46 AM

What I see here is what we as Opticians should be watching for every day with any Rx that comes along.
Pay attention to frame size AND shape. Yes shape plays a HUGE roll in the finished product. Next frame PD vs Pt PD. ZERO decentration is best with high powers. (Then again if you have a pt with opossum PD and a basket ball shape head, best of luck with that to you in any Rx.) Now choose the right index material and the proper BC for the frame AND the Rx. Follow all of the above mentioned guides and you can make any job LOOK nice.
But before all that you have to have a Dr or Tec or Optician who can do a awesome refraction taking all realistic expectations from the patient into account. And to help it along you need a patient that is willing to work with you and one that understands a reasonable period of adaptation will be necessary.

**Java99** · 02-13-2014, 10:12 AM

Wow.

**Dirk** · 02-13-2014, 10:32 AM

I admire your dedication and skill. That patient is lucky to have you as an optician.Great job!

**standarduck** · 02-13-2014, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by CCGREEN

a pt with opossum PD and a basket ball shape head

Hey! I thought he was OUR patient!

**joptid** · 02-13-2014, 05:59 PM

That's beautiful work!

**mshimp** · 02-13-2014, 07:06 PM

Was it FF or conventional grind: Great job!!.....I've only processed up to a -8.00 cyl. Used trivex double aspheric from Augen.

**Barry Santini** · 02-13-2014, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by mshimp

Was it FF or conventional grind: Great job!!.....I've only processed up to a -8.00 cyl. Used trivex double aspheric from Augen.

FRee form.

**kat** · 02-13-2014, 09:34 PM

Awesome

**Jubilee** · 02-13-2014, 10:40 PM

Marvelous!!

**braheem24** · 02-13-2014, 11:14 PM

-4.50@90 with a low set bridge so OC must be close to zero = Nice work.

**Barry Santini** · 02-14-2014, 06:27 AM

Thanks for the compliment, braheem24 and everyone else!

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**Craig** · 02-14-2014, 07:23 AM

Direct flights from Long Island to Punta Gorda and you can show me in person. I have an extra car for you as well.

**Plausible** · 02-14-2014, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Craig

Direct flights from Long Island to Punta Gorda and you can show me in person. I have an extra car for you as well.

The "extra" car gotta be a Mercedes Benz, Beemer or Lexus I would think.

**Barry Santini** · 02-14-2014, 09:15 AM

The ff lens design used allows OC to remain at the MC. Ideal.

**Craig** · 02-14-2014, 09:18 AM

Why would you think that? It is a Mercedes since that is all I have and it will be black- they charge extra for colors- and it may be the nicest one if he wants as well. This is Mr. Santini we are talking about.
He might enjoy driving the E63 590hp one on a stretch across from the airport. It is fun and makes me feel like a teenager again in my hotrod camaro.

It is cold today- almost down to 50.