The Autograf 3 lens
is not something we have been use sing in my office but i hear that this lens should be better that all other lenses, what are your experience whit this lens ?
what i hear was that you don't have to look for the near area it just there were you want it?
pleas tell me og your real life experience whit this product
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regards
Peter
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Peter[/QUOTE]
Originally Posted by Mr.Powers
Don't believe what you hear. However, do believe at least with a grain of salt what you hear on Optiboard. I have heard some good reviews on Auto 3 and some not so much. Same with Definity 3. Zeiss Individual seems to WOW everyone. Haven't heard much from Hoya or Seiko. If you want a less expensive lens, try the IOT lenses . I'm wearing them and was an immediate adapt from GT2 3D. If anything, slightly better. Check out http://www.iot.es As far as BEST, ZEISS INIVIDUAL should be it !
The Autograph 3 seems to have a nice distance but the near power is consistently weak; folks who wear another brand will normally tell you they read better out of an IOT lens. I just tried the Hoya latest and it was terrible; the power was +0.20 strong in each eye yielding the only lenses that was not wearable by me or my staff. The Seiko have always been a good clean design the runs on flatter curves than the rest of the brands; we have done many of the older designs with complete success.
I have such great success with the IOT products and having spoken to friends around the country the consensus seems to be that if you want the best lenses for most situations the IOT cannot be beat. It does not hurt that they are much less than the branded lenses designed to up charge on insurance programs.
If it where not for VSP up charges i am not sure how many lenses would be ordered that cost 2-3 times what others cost and appear to provide no benefit to the consumer or the retailer.
We have used the Auto III for some time and now are becoming more branded with that lens. Most of our progressive sales are the Auto III or inTouch. They have a lot of products that can meet the needs of nearly anyone and I am a big fan of their fixed corridor choices. I have had only positive feedback from patients as well.
I have used Hoya extensively in the past along with Zeiss. Hoya was pretty good but the design is really geared to the oriental market because of the lens design being built around vertical rather than horizontal reading style.
I have heard that Shamir is coming our with a freeform flat top bifocal that looks just like a progressive but performs like a executive! No line, edge to edge bifocal performance, executive style! I can't wait
I like the Novel it is the one I am wearing and it is at a great price. I could tell a difference as soon as I started wearing it. It exceeded my expectations. As always when the new ones come out they are always claims of new and improved. This one is.
Isn't this what all manufacturers say about every new lens they bring out? How many say 'Try our new lens, you have to hunt around for literally minutes before you can see anything at all'?
I died.
"Strictly speaking, there are no enlightened beings; only enlightened activity." -Shunryu Suzuki
I have had great success with the Auto III and the INTOUCH. The INTOUCH has IMO been the best all around. I think people like that quicker transition to the intermediate? I just recently started wearing Pals and the Intouch really feels like there is no pal in the lense compared to the IOT intermediate and the varilux S that I have tried to date. The Auto III felt great but I felt like I had less room side to side than the Intouch.
I just like the name InTouch.
The intouch has been our goto lens when others aren't working. Have had several people really love it. We use Uniques and some in-house digitals that all do great but if they have problems our remake is the inTouch.
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Can you tell me who distributes iot in US?
Laramy-K. Excellent service and quality. Ask for Janet,she is the owner.
Many labs are distributing IOT designed lenses. Our Legacy Pro and Legacy DRP are popular IOT designs.
Toledo Optical and, I believe, any walman affiliate.
So far I haven't found much difference between Auto 2 and Auto 3. But I think that is because Auto 2 is already so good.
That's an urban myth.Hoya was pretty good but the design is really geared to the oriental market because of the lens design being built around vertical rather than horizontal reading style.
RT
I assume that's tongue and cheek. If not, consider the complexities of producing a variable refractive index lens! My money is on a biological lens, but we'll definitely see another round of electro-active lenses first.
Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. - Richard P. Feynman
Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test before the lesson.
At home, I often wear the InTouch. It feels more like a single vision lens than my other progressives. It works because I'm nearsighted and will often remove the glasses to look at small details.
I'm not so impressed with the Auto 3. I can get used to most any progressive, but I find I get better distance clarity from other progressives.
Like some of the other posters, I like my IOTs. My wife is a low hyperope and seems to prefer her IOTs to the Auto 2 she was wearing (much to my delight because I have to pay for her lenses).
Autograph 3 lens is a "free-form" lens, where the total prescription is placed on the back surface of the lens, which is highly effective for a clear vision.
Only if the design is good - you cannot make blanket assumptions about 'back surface' lenses being 'clear'. I'm sure the Auto 3 is great, but that isn't ONLY beause is an inner surface progressive.
Our office just fit a pat. with the Auto 3 @ 12FH, pat. left happy DVA was good and she could read the smallest line on our reading card. A very petite woman with a 24/25 PD RX was (an approximation on DV) +1.25-0.50 with a +2.25 ADD. Frames were 46 eye with a 24 B.
1 week follow-up phone call this week to see how she is doing, will post any pertinent commentary.
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Hi all, new to Optiboard but always reviewed forums.
I think that when all said and done no one lens will be the best for every patient we see. Of course each manufacturer will claim that their lenses are the best but human vision can be said to be quite subjective with testing to 0.25 power steps and reliance on the patient to differentiate between sph, cyl and axis tweeks in the testing room.
I certainly agree that Shamir have a great range and I have had a alot of success with many of thier designs. I agree that Hoya designs tend to be created for high myopic patients and Ive always struggle with hyperopic patients and modern frames due to their very flat form.
I have not tried IOT but as I am dubious about their heritage and Zeiss seem to have lost their way. Essilor are fine everyday lenses but for the money I don't find them consistently successful.
To answer the original question, I love dispensing Autograph III and take the time to always give the patient red carpet treatment which has provided 99% success rete so far across a wide range of rx's, My training certainly highlighted the main benefit to hyperopic patients but its stable overall.
That would be the fixed 11mm, with a corridor length (to 100% of the add) of 6mm! The shortest I've tried was a fixed 15mm and I couldn't tolerate it compared to the 18mm version, and I've worn short corridors before that trial.
The client may be petite, but their visual cortex is tough as nails.
49mm is an extraordinarily narrow IPD for an adult. A six month old female baby has an average IPD of 45! The narrowest I've seen for an adult is low to mid 50's. Take some pictures for the textbooks.A very petite woman with a 24/25 PD RX was (an approximation on DV) +1.25-0.50 with a +2.25 ADD
Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. - Richard P. Feynman
Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test before the lesson.
Robert,
File this in the "just when I thought I'd seen it all" category. Lenses fit dead centre of the B measurement, but decentration on one pair was 7/6mm. I certianly had my money on "she's not walking out of here" when making them, but left happy with her two pairs. Its been over a week past dispense and have not seen her orders come back for re-do's. I don't know if the optician had followed-up with her though. I remember when fitting PAL's @ 18 was a big deal, never thought I'd be making PAL's @12.
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No this is not the only reason. Auto 3 lenses offer other advantages as well like, its design ensures user comfort due to enlarged reading zone and significant reduction in distortion level. The lens is stylish and is suitable for rimless and nylon frames.
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