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    Can you over tint a transition lens

    My client has a pair of Transition progressive that he just bought. He wants the lens to be darker. Can you tint a tran prog lens???????

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    If you tint the Transitions lenses, they won't be transperent anymore and maybe it would affect the transition process. As i know, nobody tints Transition lenses.
    To satisfy him, sell him another pair of Transitions Xtractive lenses.

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    Yep, but if you're smart you will tint the back side only. Don't wanna cut the UV activation out on the front.

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    I've tinted the plastic ones when they weren't available in extra active. just gave them a 10% grey. Only did it a very few times. Patients always liked them, and no one ever complained about no changing as much.

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    PS: I am going to try a "COLD TINT" to the job. Heat your tint to the correct temperature....turn off the tinter and let it sit for approxiamtely 20-30 minutes and then dip your lens in the warm to cool tint. This protects the scratch coat and still will allow the 15-20% additional tint I need.

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    I was told by my labs that if you tint a transition lens, it voids the lens warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldyflsh View Post
    I was told by my labs that if you tint a transition lens, it voids the lens warranty.

    This is correct. It is also correct for polarized lenses. Our lab will do it, but we always try to avoid it if possible, and no more that about 10%. With polarized, too much tint can separate the layers. It can be done on transitions, but it's best to avoid if possible because it can damage the transitions and UV qualities.

    Actually even putting an A.R. on polarized lenses will void the warranty as well.
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    We do it all the time and haven't had a lot problem. I could swear we had a set of instructions at my old job, from transitions, that said to tint 15sec in gray for a darker lens. I may be a crazy though.

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    Its not advisable to tint transition, sunsensor and polride lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nixg View Post
    Its not advisable to tint transition, sunsensor and polride lenses.

    Nishant Ghag
    Why ?

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    It, the heat, can affect / degrade the performance of the transitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kara View Post
    Actually even putting an A.R. on polarized lenses will void the warranty as well.
    From what lab? We put backside AR on just about every polarized lens we dispense and have never had a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC Optix View Post
    From what lab? We put backside AR on just about every polarized lens we dispense and have never had a problem.
    Would edging the lens void the warranty also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC Optix View Post
    From what lab? We put backside AR on just about every polarized lens we dispense and have never had a problem.
    we too doin The Same and for Many Years now.......Never had A SINGLE COMPLAIN !

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    Quote Originally Posted by coupe View Post
    My client has a pair of Transition progressive that he just bought. He wants the lens to be darker. Can you tint a tran prog lens???????
    Yes you can. Used to do it all the time.

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    i have tinted over and mirrored transitions lenses... the mirror didnt work as well as i would have liked. i dont think it had the UV penetration it needed.

    had great results with a gradient tint over transitions...

    i wasnt really worried about the warranty, but cant remember having any issues with them, i still have my mirrored transitions, still in great shape.

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    I am afraid that would ruin the transitions.

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    A year ago I had a patient that wanted a brown 10% tint over her transitions. We did it with no warnings or protestations from the lab. A few weeks later we had a Dr Rx change for that patient which required a remake. Trying to get the same thing for the same patient a second time practically required an act of congress. I went rounds with several people at the lab which was a hair-pulling experience. I was finally told "just this once". We will never do it again, possible or not, just because of that stupid encounter.
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    The answer is yes.

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    I've asked a large number of labs about this. I was told no almost universally, but one of the Zeiss labs was willing to give it a shot on their own photochromic lenses. They would only do a light (17% or less) grey or brown tint, no gradient, no funky colours. Our customer wanted a grey/blue gradient ~50%. I was flatout told that they couldn't do that because they'd waste more money on wrecking lenses than they'd get from us in payment.

    So long story short the heat from the tints wrecks the latest generation of transitions. Or so I'm told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stedel View Post
    I've asked a large number of labs about this. I was told no almost universally, but one of the Zeiss labs was willing to give it a shot on their own photochromic lenses. They would only do a light (17% or less) grey or brown tint, no gradient, no funky colours. Our customer wanted a grey/blue gradient ~50%. I was flatout told that they couldn't do that because they'd waste more money on wrecking lenses than they'd get from us in payment.

    So long story short the heat from the tints wrecks the latest generation of transitions. Or so I'm told.
    How ironic for a new version of Transitions that's supposed to be less heat-sensitive.
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    All branded semi finished Transitions lenses that are hardcoated, have non tintable hardcoats. After processing, the lab needs to apply a tintable hardcoat to the backside of the lens. The lens can then be tinted. Transitions FSV lenses are more than likely dip coated with non tintable hardcoat on both sides, so any tint request will need to start with a semi-finished blank.

    We have always used non tintable hardcoats on our lenses.

    The reason we never promoted tinting any generation of Transitions lenses is there are to many variables on equipment, dyes and mostly, the skills of the processor. Most who will do tints are skilled in the art and do awesome jobs that stand up to time.... but there are many that have enough knowledge to be dangerous, botch jobs and blame it on the manufacturer or technology.
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