Why are so many old school opticians against newer opthalmics ???

[jonah]

such as dispensing wrapped lenses. If its compensated properly, then what should be the issue at hand?

Any comments?

[uncut]

Aahhhh Grasshopper:

First, let me congratulate you for embracing "newer ophthalmics".

On behalf of some of the "olde schoole" opticians.............may you not repeat the sins of the past, or experience the same difficulties that they bring.

[Wes]

Wrap and tilt compensation isn't that new . It's been around longer than most old school opticians. Therefore, it stands to reason that the opticians you speak of chose not to learn it in the first place.
It should be mentioned that many of the "new school" opticians don't learn very much either, given the pass rates of the basic certification exams.

[jonah]

Thanks for the spelling correction.

My teacher back in school who is considered to be a master optician by many, always told us how he strongly opposes to dispensing any lenses that have a significant curvature.i.e sunglass wrap frame, regardless of the optimization.

[Wes]

Where did you go to school?

[jonah]

New York

[pseudonym]

Gawd love em, old school opticians choose function over form every time. The one I did my internship with would try to persuade everyone to buy a round frame because the optics were the best. And he would declare that progressives are "a boondoggle foisted on the unsuspecting public." I won't repeat what he says about polycarbonate.

[chip anderson]

Pseudo:

You don't actually mean that you feel an opticians job is to make people see. Everybody knows we just sposed ta sell and make 'em look purdy. An everybody knows that the word new is completely interchangeable with better.

Chip

[pseudonym]

You can "make people see" but you can't make them happy about looking like Harry Potter. There's always a compromise between vision and vanity.

My current fantasies revolve around making horse blinder temples vanish forever. And they can take side string mounts with them. What numbskull designer thought those were a good idea?

[uncut]

Pseudo:

I believe it was a "new wave/generation" optician!

[LandLord]

Or one of those new "green" opticians

[rdcoach5]

Or one of those new "green" opticians

What's wrong with going "Green" ? I say exploit all the renewable energy we can. For example, re-use all of Fezz/Johns beer cans and we won't have to make new for decades.

[RetroRat]

You can "make people see" but you can't make them happy about looking like Harry Potter.

Am I the only one who thinks Harry Potter looks kinda cool?

Retrorat

[Chris Ryser]

We had to take courses given by at the time SL (Essilor), in the late 1950s with the subject " To whom not to sell Progressives".

...............and we were not regulated by spiffs and commissions.

[Barry Santini]

New ophthamics is hard skill knowledge. If you opt out of CEs connected with new lens technology ("Horrors! A commercial product sponsored by a commercial interest - let's get over this, NYS Board), and you're not going *back* to school, then how would you learn to appreciate them

B

[jonah]

Barry , very well said.

Can anyone say that even after doing all the proper compensation and modification to a wrapped lens (yes, even digitally), that there SHOULD be an issue with a patients visual acuity?

[finefocus]

Barry , very well said.

Can anyone say that even after doing all the proper compensation and modification to a wrapped lens (yes, even digitally), that there SHOULD be an issue with a patients visual acuity?

It's been said here several times that VA with progressives is worse than sv, ft, etc. I disagree. If you look through the appropriate sweet spot of a PAL, you will see just fine. You can't look through just any spot, or lots of spots simultaneously; you must limit your field. That said, your VA often is better because you're not trying to see 5 feet with an Rx calibrated for 20 feet. What is correct about previous posts is that there is artificial astigmia generated at the lens periphery; so don't look there.

[Barry Santini]

Sv wraps only fail for me cause of the following:

1. Rx i started with was not appropriate
2. Unadressable eyelash touch
3. Fish-bowl perspective is not reconcilable

B

[uncut]

Sv wraps only fail for me cause of the following:

1. Rx i started with was not appropriate
2. Unadressable eyelash touch
3. Fish-bowl perspective is not reconcilable


















































B

Good points, Barry.

[chip anderson]

Could be some old timers have been around long enough to know better.
Hell, many of us can spell ophthalmics.

Chip

[finefocus]

Could be some old timers have been around long enough to know better.
Hell, many of us can spell ophthalmics.

Chip

...even though we sometimes forget to put in our teeth.

[Wes]

...even though we sometimes forget to put in our teeth.

-it's the wife's turn to use them!

[bigmike1960]

such as dispensing wrapped lenses. If its compensated properly, then what should be the issue at hand?

Any comments?

Operative word here is "properly".

[Varangian]

I'm not opposed to new ophthalmics...



...I'm opposed to things that don't work properly.

[jonah]

Chip,

thats a cheap shot, although ophthalmics with an H is in fact the correct way of spelling it, I still don't see how that connects to better optics............