How many eyewires does a person need?

**jrh291** · 06-29-2011, 06:40 PM

I know, stop buying them, and I am working on it-with the brick wall who buys the frames. But has anyone heard a logical explanation why so many frames are now made with essentially two eyewires?
Usually things like this happen because it's cheaper, but don't 2 eyewires cost about twice as much? Maybe four extra solder points? Aren't 2 eyewires twice the weight of 1 eyewire? "sell two eyewires price of one. Amellicans so stupid to believe it good deal!" "They happy buy rimless frame with 2 rims if it cheap enough. ha-ha-ha!"
If it serves some function... Lenses are thinner and lighter than ever...? I ask the reps and they just tilt their heads like a confused dog.

**DragonLensmanWV** · 07-01-2011, 11:16 AM

I too, dislike the double-wire frames that are out now. I refuse to buy the string-mount double-wires because they are such a pain to insert the lenses. The designers should be made to mount high-plus thin lenses in a lab environment for a year for each one they design.
And forget about mounting any 8-base or steeper lenses in them - you cannot bend two parallel pieces of wire to any curve without breaking a solder point.

**pseudonym** · 07-03-2011, 04:36 PM

They look great with a demo lens, so patients want them. Is it possible to hide the frames that aren't practical for Rx lenses or are you required to have them on display? I know you have more discretion on what you can do in independent vs. big box.

Also many frames are thin in the extreme and difficult to make an invisible repair. All you can hope for is to maybe restore it to functionality.

**Striderswife** · 07-03-2011, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by jrh291

. . . they just tilt their heads like a confused dog.

This is how I feel. Can anyone post a pic or have a link to an example??

**chip anderson** · 07-03-2011, 06:22 PM

Jus' waits 'til you has to try to weld a Porshe~Carrara back togetha when de eyewire has comed unsoldered. Then you'll know.

Chip

**pseudonym** · 07-03-2011, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Striderswife

This is how I feel. Can anyone post a pic or have a link to an example??

Here's one, though there are worse:

http://www.lenscrafters.com/eyeglass...26-co./6487177

**Mizikal** · 07-04-2011, 12:06 AM

These are my least favorite frame design. I enjoy the challenge of a difficult frame repair. These are just frustrating.

**jrh291** · 07-04-2011, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Mizikal

These are my least favorite frame design. I enjoy the challenge of a difficult frame repair. These are just frustrating.

aside from nut and bolt facets, I mean-are the plastic string mount frames with one hole at each "corner" to hold the string. The string comes out with the demo. I've tried smashing the string, burning the ends, but never can do a decent job. I've banned them, but if one slips through now I send it to a wholesale lab. Anyone have a good method?

**chip anderson** · 07-04-2011, 07:08 AM

Jrh:

Drill a second hole.

Or if fram has a slot for the innerliner, crimp the fishing line inside same.

Another hint, use the largest diameter (poundage doesn't count here) fishing line that you can get through the hole (cut at an angle for starting) then you won't need much of a ball end to retain.

Chip

**Striderswife** · 07-05-2011, 01:22 AM

Pseudonym, thanks! For some reason, I just couldn't wrap my brain around that one. Okay, I know what we're talking about now. I agree with just about everything said so far. That particular style is hard to move in my office anyway, so I don't think I've got any on my board. I decline them every time.

**John@OWDC** · 07-05-2011, 07:40 AM

We have tried to eliminate all the double eyewire frames in our store but some still sneak through now and again.

They are not really that bad in low minus if you run them in poly aspheric. Anything else and they become a nightmare.

It seems like the frame companies are changing the design a little and I am seeing more that are single along the bottom and double along the upper part of the chassis. If the edger traces the right eyewire then half the battle is won.

**jrh291** · 07-08-2011, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by chip anderson

Jrh:

Drill a second hole.

Or if fram has a slot for the innerliner, crimp the fishing line inside same.

Another hint, use the largest diameter (poundage doesn't count here) fishing line that you can get through the hole (cut at an angle for starting) then you won't need much of a ball end to retain.

Chip

and thanks Chip. I've thought about the 2nd hole, and the larger diameter fish line is one I had not considered. If I catch them appearing on the board I get them sent back for credit, figuring that's the best way to rid the market of them. Either solution I think is a bad precedent-if the manufacturer hasn't figured out how it will work in real life, why should I support it? Knowing I will likely run into it again, though, I have new ideas, BUT...
most of those dang frames have a square bevel that accomodates no lens I know of. There is probably an edger out there that can handle it, but I have yet to run across one in an in-office type edger. Thanks again.