Cheaper alternative to Varliux Comfort lenses?

**69stingray** · 02-01-2011, 08:40 PM

Our two most dispensed lenses are the Comfort and the Definity. We are looking to move away from both/Essilor... lab we use can get just about anything.

Are there any progressives that we can put existing perfectly content Comfort/Definity wearers in for less cost, and hopefully keep happy?

**Judy Canty** · 02-01-2011, 11:51 PM

SightStar365 from Luzerne.

**eyemanflying** · 02-02-2011, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by 69stingray

Our two most dispensed lenses are the Comfort and the Definity. We are looking to move away from both/Essilor... lab we use can get just about anything.

Are there any progressives that we can put existing perfectly content Comfort/Definity wearers in for less cost, and hopefully keep happy?

Good move for leaving Essilor. Summit is a good alternative - similar hard design.

**hipoptical** · 02-04-2011, 11:30 AM

PM sent.

**Lee H** · 02-08-2011, 10:22 PM

Seiko Supercede

**Judy Canty** · 02-08-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Lee H

Seiko Supercede

LOVE mine!

**hipoptical** · 02-09-2011, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by CuriousCat

LOVE mine!

I"m truly shocked. I would rate the Supercede average or OK at best. I guess that just goes to show ya... there really is a sucker born every, er, I mean, there's a lot of lenses out there that are good alternatives to molded oldies.
I kid, mostly. In the digital world, the Supercede in my book is just OK. Having said that, digital "OK" is better than molded "great" in real life testing (when the digital lens is made correctly.)

**Judy Canty** · 02-09-2011, 06:24 AM

LOVE my Surmounts even more! That being said, SightStar365 is the totally awesome alternative. ONE design with the widest availability of materials I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot in 38 years!

**gatorbait** · 02-09-2011, 08:48 AM

I would go with a Summit. If you go to Lensguru.com and check out the lens map, the Summit is actually a very good lens for the price you pay and I have had nothing but outstanding service from Hoya. With that said, I am currently using Zeiss(I relocated and am working for an optical shop that Loves Ziess). Here we use the Reveal FF and I have never had a complaint from a customer and haven't had tooo many problems with Zeiss yet except for invoice issues but thats easy to fix.

**scriptfiller** · 02-09-2011, 04:21 PM

The Kodak Unique works well for us.

**gatorbait** · 02-09-2011, 05:27 PM

Didn't Essilor buy out the Kodak lens?

**hcjilson** · 02-09-2011, 10:17 PM

I think you could move from Comfort with no problems, however, DEFINITY lenses are different. Without exception, my DEFINITY customers who have gone eleswhere for new lenses have returned to get back into them. They ARE that good, admitedly not less expensive.

**KStraker** · 02-10-2011, 11:14 AM

3 Rivers, "See More Comfort".

**eye2** · 02-11-2011, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by hipoptical

I"m truly shocked. I would rate the Supercede average or OK at best. I guess that just goes to show ya... there really is a sucker born every, er, I mean, there's a lot of lenses out there that are good alternatives to molded oldies.
I kid, mostly. In the digital world, the Supercede in my book is just OK. Having said that, digital "OK" is better than molded "great" in real life testing (when the digital lens is made correctly.)

REALLY! Sears optical still uses the ovation talk about old design! :drop:

**69stingray** · 02-13-2011, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by hcjilson

I think you could move from Comfort with no problems, however, DEFINITY lenses are different. Without exception, my DEFINITY customers who have gone eleswhere for new lenses have returned to get back into them. They ARE that good, admitedly not less expensive.

i was worried someone would say this about Definity... they are great lenses. not sure what to replace with yet

**69stingray** · 02-13-2011, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by Lee H

Seiko Supercede

what is approx. pricing on these?

**listenclose23** · 02-15-2011, 09:22 AM

Hoya for sure..they have a wide array of lenses at great prices and they put their money in development instead of marketing, unlike essilor . I have used many different labs specializing in every manufacturer including Zeiss, Shamir, Essilor, and Signet before it was bought by Essilor. You cant beat Hoya...PM me your pricing and location and I'm sure I can help.

**kcount** · 02-16-2011, 04:02 PM

Rochester Optical Digital, Shamir Element, Adaptar, AO Omni I think the last two came out about the same time. My low cost go to is the Shoreview although it's also an Essilor product.

**hipoptical** · 02-18-2011, 05:28 PM

Couple of PMs sent

**sumit082** · 03-03-2011, 07:58 AM

shamir genesis

**IndianaOD** · 03-03-2011, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by listenclose23

Hoya for sure..they have a wide array of lenses at great prices and they put their money in development instead of marketing, unlike essilor . I have used many different labs specializing in every manufacturer including Zeiss, Shamir, Essilor, and Signet before it was bought by Essilor. You cant beat Hoya...PM me your pricing and location and I'm sure I can help.

Doesn't Hoya import their digital lenses from out of country? I may be crazy but I stick with lenses that are processed in the good ole USA. The labs we use generate their digital lenses in-country.

RT · 03-04-2011, 08:41 AM

HOYA has AR and Freeform technology at a number of US labs.

**DragonLensmanWV** · 03-14-2011, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by IndianaOD

Doesn't Hoya import their digital lenses from out of country? I may be crazy but I stick with lenses that are processed in the good ole USA. The labs we use generate their digital lenses in-country.

Varilux is made in France.

**ThatOneGuy** · 03-14-2011, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by IndianaOD

Doesn't Hoya import their digital lenses from out of country? I may be crazy but I stick with lenses that are processed in the good ole USA. The labs we use generate their digital lenses in-country.

Someone didn't do their homework. If I took my rep's words for everything, I'd be believing that Zeiss processes all of its lenses in Asia and then very quickly ships them back to me, Hoya configures everyone's AR units for optimum performance, and free form lenses are made with lasers.

You are missing out on business opportunities and opportunities to service your patients better if you aren't talking to companies yourself and touring their facilities to see what they are really capable of.

**Clive Noble** · 03-24-2011, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by eye2

REALLY! Sears optical still uses the ovation talk about old design! :drop:

Don't knock Ovation........ we're still winning hands down ...... when patients walk out of the door with this lens and you don't see them for 2 - 3 years when they return requesting the same again, you know it's still an acceptable design..... Gradal2 still comes out top and Summit is great..... however I still claim it's not the lens..... it's the guys who do the surfacing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and you guys know who I mean)