This is why Walmart sucks...

**Speed** · 10-30-2010, 06:06 PM

Murica been livin high on the hog at the expense of 3rd worlders. The wealth is now being redistributed.

**Johns** · 10-30-2010, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Speed

Do you want to compare Walmart frames with the other on any framebar. What is different about the lenses? Or frames?

Any day of the week! You won't find frames that come in 3 sizes, and 5 different colors at WM. Heck, from what I hear, you'd be hard pressed to find more than one temple size for any given frame.

Frames from France or Italy? I don't think so.

Frames with a 2 year unconditional warranty? I don't think so.

Lenses edged on the premises? I don't think so.

-5.00 cyl back to the patient in 2 days? I don't think so.

Polarized gradient tinted progressives in a wrap frame...that actually work? I don't think so.

No charge frames and lenses when the patient just can't afford them? I don't think so.

Need I go on? I don't think so.

You may have bought into the notion that all that is available anywhere is the same of crap, possibly because you only shop at places that sell crap. There is a HUGE difference in what is available, and in what these place choose to carry. Quality products are available, but you won't find them for $19...

**Johns** · 10-30-2010, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Speed

Murica been livin high on the hog at the expense of 3rd worlders.

Yeah, those WM shoppers really live high off the hog!:bbg:

Third worlders? Whatever...

**Mizikal** · 10-30-2010, 10:40 PM

I had an interesting conversation with a retired auto worker last year. He told me how Wal-mart is the biggest violator of humans rights.I wanted to call him a hypocrite and how he profiting from those supposed human rights violation but I was at work at Wal-mart so I could not. I just smiled at him. He then went on a rant about cars made in Japan and I told him how much I loved my Hynundai and he went away.

**Johns** · 10-30-2010, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Mizikal

I had an interesting conversation with a retired auto worker last year. He told me how Wal-mart is the biggest violator of humans rights.I wanted to call him a hypocrite and how he profiting from those supposed human rights violation but I was at work at Wal-mart so I could not. I just smiled at him. He then went on a rant about cars made in Japan and I told him how much I loved my Hynundai and he went away.

Good point. Nobody cares about human rights. Your post is a great example.

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**HarryChiling** · 10-31-2010, 12:04 AM

Wow, the best thing our family ever did was stop shopping at Walmart. Do they have things cheaper sure, but we realized that the experience was better EVERYWHERE else. It did mean we had to cut back a bit but it was more than worth it, we got more great experiences and businesses around me that if I left my wallet at home they would still service me and I'll get them on the next go. Our local grocery store is awesome, Saubels the girls that work there are always crazy nice and they converse with my 3 year old son, and every line has a young high schooler bagging, my wife used to wonder why I shopped there, but it's so much easier and nicer and the cost is less than $30 a month more in groceries, also the quality of the meats and the produce is all local farm fresh.

Our cars we take to southern auto body and brooks and huff great service and they know what they are doing. Oil changes at the lube express locally owned quick lube spot, they'll bring you soda, coffee, tea, water or vitamin water to your car while you wait for an oil change. Even give my son a lollipop every time we go through and they know his name and remember us. They have gotten awards for their landscaping as well, really nice waterfall pond in the front and they have plants that they take care of in the oil change bay, because it reduces the carbon emissions and they treat my wife like a queen.

We go to godfreys meats a local butcher about 20 mile up the road, his meat isn't just dyed red, it's fresh and would can get him to cut your meats for you into more manageable chunks and even wrap them for individual meals so you don't have to section up your walmart abused hormone feed cow steak that you bought in bulk.

You want to know what Walmart really think about your time: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-...s-Even-Larger/

They have the largest retail data warehouse in the world yet they don't have a computer to look up their inventory for you their customer. Their slogan should be "come in and see how much crap your willing to put up with for a savings of $0.50". I'd have a better experience trying to pry two quarters super glued to a sidewalk as a means of saving. Heck you could always spend your summers diving in wishing wells or fountains for a few quarters then shopping at WM.

**fjpod** · 10-31-2010, 03:47 AM

Surprised WM hasn't started self-checkout...why pay minimum wages to employees when they can get the stupid American public to check out their own orders for free.

I went into a WM once to look around...left thinking they don't have anything I need.

**Mizikal** · 10-31-2010, 09:02 AM

I am glad the Wal-mart I work at is not like that.We always win the friendliest store award.The store I worked at before though was pretty bad though. The turn over rate was something like 67%.Most likely because they only paid between $7.00-$8.00 an hour and mostly hired part time. I believe you get what you pay for. I think I received better training at Mcdonalds as a teenager then I did for any position I had at Wal-Mart.Yes, that includes optical(that belongs in another thread). The high turnover has a lot to do with poor training. However if they would raise the starting wage up to even $9.00-$10.00 I think they would get better applicants and the turnover would lessen and customer service would increase.

As far as buying local.I go to Aldi which is not local. Then we have a price chopper in town.Price Chopper is good when they have a sale and a small store that from what I understand has a good meat selection but I get organic hamburger free from my Dad so they cannot beat that.They opened an EZ oil change in town and I was going to get my oil change there to support local business but they also run an EZ payday loan out of the same building and I cannot bring myself to support his businesses.

**loose-screw** · 10-31-2010, 10:30 AM

I have to many stories to share about Wally World. Unless I want to see a Jerry Springer show live I stay away from there like the plague. I would rather spend a few dollars more and go to a store that appropriates the money I spend in their store (or at least pretends to).

**NeGlassesGirl27** · 10-31-2010, 11:13 AM

They have self check out lanes here in Omaha, they generally have about 3 of them open. I refer to the lanes as "Sally". :bbg:

But, I do do laundry on Sundays if you care to share!

Hey, I'm doing laundry now..you want to finish mine? :p

**Speed** · 10-31-2010, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Johns

Any day of the week! You won't find frames that come in 3 sizes, and 5 different colors at WM. Heck, from what I hear, you'd be hard pressed to find more than one temple size for any given frame.

Frames from France or Italy? I don't think so.

Frames with a 2 year unconditional warranty? I don't think so.

Lenses edged on the premises? I don't think so.

-5.00 cyl back to the patient in 2 days? I don't think so.

Polarized gradient tinted progressives in a wrap frame...that actually work? I don't think so.

No charge frames and lenses when the patient just can't afford them? I don't think so.

Need I go on? I don't think so.

You may have bought into the notion that all that is available anywhere is the same of crap, possibly because you only shop at places that sell crap. There is a HUGE difference in what is available, and in what these place choose to carry. Quality products are available, but you won't find them for $19...

Good neighborhood you live in. People around here are just no longer willing to pay the extra bucks for all that.

**BobV** · 10-31-2010, 03:21 PM

Eyeguy21, you must have gone to the Wally in Blue Springs. I was there the other day picking up some OTC meds, and was in a regular lane. The 500 pound cashier was moving slower than molasses. The 4 "speedy" checkout lanes weren't even open, along with about 8 other lanes. They also had self checkouts, but took them out.

**loose-screw** · 10-31-2010, 08:08 PM

LOL yea the Wally world where I live has a total of 36 lanes 8 of which are self checkout. the self check out are never open and there are usually only 4 or 5 lanes open 2 of which are 10 items or less.

**Speed** · 11-01-2010, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by HarryChiling

Wow, the best thing our family ever did was stop shopping at Walmart. Do they have things cheaper sure, but we realized that the experience was better EVERYWHERE else. It did mean we had to cut back a bit but it was more than worth it, we got more great experiences and businesses around me that if I left my wallet at home they would still service me and I'll get them on the next go. Our local grocery store is awesome, Saubels the girls that work there are always crazy nice and they converse with my 3 year old son, and every line has a young high schooler bagging, my wife used to wonder why I shopped there, but it's so much easier and nicer and the cost is less than $30 a month more in groceries, also the quality of the meats and the produce is all local farm fresh.

Our cars we take to southern auto body and brooks and huff great service and they know what they are doing. Oil changes at the lube express locally owned quick lube spot, they'll bring you soda, coffee, tea, water or vitamin water to your car while you wait for an oil change. Even give my son a lollipop every time we go through and they know his name and remember us. They have gotten awards for their landscaping as well, really nice waterfall pond in the front and they have plants that they take care of in the oil change bay, because it reduces the carbon emissions and they treat my wife like a queen.

We go to godfreys meats a local butcher about 20 mile up the road, his meat isn't just dyed red, it's fresh and would can get him to cut your meats for you into more manageable chunks and even wrap them for individual meals so you don't have to section up your walmart abused hormone feed cow steak that you bought in bulk.

You want to know what Walmart really think about your time: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-...s-Even-Larger/

They have the largest retail data warehouse in the world yet they don't have a computer to look up their inventory for you their customer. Their slogan should be "come in and see how much crap your willing to put up with for a savings of $0.50". I'd have a better experience trying to pry two quarters super glued to a sidewalk as a means of saving. Heck you could always spend your summers diving in wishing wells or fountains for a few quarters then shopping at WM.

Good for you. Not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to afford luxury living. Good for you sir!

**Johns** · 11-01-2010, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Speed

Good for you. Not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to afford luxury living. Good for you sir!

Many people confuse quality with luxury. There is a very good chance that most people could afford quality, if they didn't feel the need to get so many bargains on quantity.

Think about it.

People would rather spend $10 each for 3 prs. of jeans, that will wear out after 3 months, than $30 on a pr. that is quality made, and will last more than a year. They've got to buy quantity, because they are nothing more than disposable products. Quality is not a "rich"/"wealthy" thing.

**Indispensable** · 11-01-2010, 12:37 PM

Just asking ... is it ok to shop at JC PENNYS?

**eyeguy21** · 11-01-2010, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by BobV

Eyeguy21, you must have gone to the Wally in Blue Springs. I was there the other day picking up some OTC meds, and was in a regular lane. The 500 pound cashier was moving slower than molasses. The 4 "speedy" checkout lanes weren't even open, along with about 8 other lanes. They also had self checkouts, but took them out.

Blue Springs it was. I knew I didn't see any self checkouts.

**gunner05** · 11-01-2010, 12:52 PM

Here's a little hint that will help you get to know the McTicians that work in the optical there. If you only have a few items, go to the optical to get checked out. Pisses them off to do it and you don' thave to wait in line.

**Speed** · 11-01-2010, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Johns

Many people confuse quality with luxury. There is a very good chance that most people could afford quality, if they didn't feel the need to get so many bargains on quantity.

Think about it.

People would rather spend $10 each for 3 prs. of jeans, that will wear out after 3 months, than $30 on a pr. that is quality made, and will last more than a year. They've got to buy quantity, because they are nothing more than disposable products. Quality is not a "rich"/"wealthy" thing.

The jeans I get at W are $8 per pair. They are as good as any wranglers, better than arizonas and better than any "designers" I have compared. You speakith of something you know not. Try another point.

**Fezz** · 11-01-2010, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by gunner05

Here's a little hint that will help you get to know the McTicians that work in the optical there. If you only have a few items, go to the optical to get checked out. Pisses them off to do it and you don' thave to wait in line.

Some of the most educated, professional opticians that I know work at Walmart. In fact, quite a few of them have their ABO-AC, NCLE, NCLE-AC, and ABOM. I am lucky to consider them friends! I would hope that more of us got to know some others in the field. I would hate to network in such a way to irritate or "____ them off".

**optilady1** · 11-01-2010, 01:29 PM

Nobody wants to fight their way through the crowds of people and slow lines at Walmart. But many of us find that driving 25 miles out of the way to buy meat is unrealistic. And many of you haven't had children in the last 20 years, so you don't realize that diapers are between 5 and 10 dollars less per pack at walmart. We all have 'latte' factors that could save us 30, 40 or even more dollars a week, setting us free to shop at mom and pop stores. However, not all of us are horders who rabidly buy pallets of ketchup or bags of clearance shoes. One isn't better than another because they choose to shop here vs there. To suggest so is elitist and snobby.

**Johns** · 11-01-2010, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Speed

The jeans I get at W are $8 per pair. They are as good as any wranglers, better than arizonas and better than any "designers" I have compared. You speakith of something you know not. Try another point.

Actually I do know about this. A friend of mine in Oakland Ca., is a rep for Levis. The Levi's they sell now (as of 2008) are all made in China. However, there is a distinct difference in the quality of the rivets, the thread count, and the mil of the material they use between Walmart and what they sell at Macy's. Wranglers and Arizona are also made there. The quality is about the same. (I saw the wranglers 2 for $15 at Target...you might want to try there for a "better" price.)

The jeans I was referring to were brands like Shaefer Ranch Wear (about $40), and Texas Jeans ($49). Both are made in the USA, with one being made in Texas (PM me, I'll let you know which one).

Cheap? Sure you can get cheap. In fact, you can get cheaper. But don't fool yourself into thinking you're getting the same product that you used. WM makes strong demands on their suppliers, and the difference in the price has to come from somewhere.

A big difference.

**Johns** · 11-01-2010, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by optilady1

One isn't better than another because they choose to shop here vs there. To suggest so is elitist and snobby.

It's not about the people, but more about the products. And this quote makes the point that it is just a matter of choice, and what your priorities are:

We all have 'latte' factors that could save us 30, 40 or even more dollars a week, setting us free to shop at mom and pop stores.

**Speed** · 11-01-2010, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Johns

Actually I do know about this. A friend of mine in Oakland Ca., is a rep for Levis. The Levi's they sell now (as of 2008) are all made in China. However, there is a distinct difference in the quality of the rivets, the thread count, and the mil of the material they use between Walmart and what they sell at Macy's. Wranglers and Arizona are also made there. The quality is about the same. (I saw the wranglers 2 for $15 at Target...you might want to try there for a "better" price.)

The jeans I was referring to were brands like Shaefer Ranch Wear (about $40), and Texas Jeans ($49). Both are made in the USA, with one being made in Texas (PM me, I'll let you know which one).

Cheap? Sure you can get cheap. In fact, you can get cheaper. But don't fool yourself into thinking you're getting the same product that you used. WM makes strong demands on their suppliers, and the difference in the price has to come from somewhere.

A big difference.

Denum is denum. So when the denum rots away, you will still have the rivets. I love to know where I could get a pair of jeans that will last 5 times as long as the $8 pair. I will take a look at Target next time. The problem I have with the Arizonas is the pockets are not very deep. You should take a risk on the $8 just to see how long the Ws last you. Just make sure you get the ones with 7 belt loops.

**optilady1** · 11-01-2010, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Johns

It's not the differences in the people that I'm highlighting, it's the difference in the products.

i completely agree. Typically I only purchase clothes for myself or children from land's end. but they are pricey, and i only shop their clearance, because i CAN purchase clothes for about the Walmart price for obviously better quality. But to rule out all shopping at walmart impossible for some of us. I can either spend $16.00 for a pack of pullups, or $11.00 for the same brand at walmart. and yes, that $5.00 makes a difference to me.