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[For-Life]

The Ontario Human Rights Commission refused in April 2008 to proceed, saying it lacked jurisdiction to deal with magazine content. However, the Commission stated that it, "strongly condemns the Islamophobic portrayal of Muslims ... Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism

Like racial profiling and other types of discrimination, ascribing the behaviour of individuals to a group damages everyone in that group. We have always spoken out on such issues. The OHRC is mandated to express what it sees as unfair and harmful comment or conduct that may lead to discrimination.

CHRC says - That is why Canada and most other democracies have enacted legislation to place reasonable limits on the expression of hatred.

Not exaggerating, these people are the ones to judge what is unfair or hate speech? Talking about islamic extremists is hate speech? If you dont understand the premises of the argument, they are saying what Steyn writes about is hate speech, which it clearly is not.

They didn't judge though. They offered their opinion. Whether I agree with that opinion is another thing (I don't).

And again, they were not concerned about his article, but Macleans' refusal to allow a counter article.

[For-Life]

Read this and tell me if i was exaggerating

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-kaf...of-mark-steyn/

Like i said... no free speech in Canada

You tend to use Blogs as fact written sources?

[MasterCrafter]

Steyn didnt go to trial?

[Uncle Fester]

Interesting! But you are wrong! Flat out wrong. Legislators and those elected into office ( such as senate and congress) for the State or Federal all make laws. Judges do not make laws! Constitution gives the federal government the power to make laws voted by the senate and congress and then passed by the president. Judges ENFORCE or interpret the law! The do not Make them.

This is what one things that is wrong with America total ignorance and I am shocked that you say you are a law student! Judges can RULE that a law passed by the legislative branch and executive branch are unconstitutional and overturn a that "law" but they do not make laws!

Shanbaum passed the bar and is a lawyer.

Legislature's write/create laws but don't you think by the judges interpreting the law they do in fact make the law?

Take the original constitution and the 3/5th's compromise concerning slaves. Up until the civil war judges made the law by denying slaves a full vote.

Just spent some time in my trusty Oxford American dictionary.

Make- 3. to establish (laws or rules or distinctions)
Establish- 3. to cause people to accept

[MasterCrafter]

You tend to use Blogs as fact written sources?

CBC,ABC. NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, might as well be blogs. They are certainly not news. They are all in the tank for Obama

[For-Life]

Read this and tell me if i was exaggerating

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-kaf...of-mark-steyn/

Like i said... no free speech in Canada

There was a hearing, not a trial. He was not called to testify, nor was he required to attend. The interesting thing is Steyn was hoping the BC Human Rights Tribunal would hear the case and would rule against him, to prove that Canada has no free speech. He was wrong, as the case proved that Canadians do have free speech.

[For-Life]

CBC,ABC. NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, might as well be blogs. They are certainly not news. They are all in the tank for Obama

There we go. Exaggerating again.

With that said, there is a difference between an editorial and the news. The news publishes the story. The editorial offers an opinion on the story.

[DragonLensmanWV]

I do believe God put Obama in office! no doubt at all on that one. I am a Christian and I believe in God of course! But I take a stand against the man God put in office and that mans ideals and beliefs on murdering the unborn, and many many of his other anti American beliefs. Just because God put a man in office does not mean that man is right and what he says is from God and that Christians should support him. God calls me as a Christian to respect the authorities in my life and to honor them I do respect Obama because he is the president but I pray against his policies and I will do everything in my legal power to vote against him and his attempts to take away our freedoms. :)

Oh, so God's only right when you agree with Him? Good luck in your afterlife.

[MasterCrafter]

Rev. Scott Boision. The Christian preacher is now forbidden for life from ever citing Bible verses regarding homosexuality in his sermons, or in newspapers, by email, on the radio, in public speeches, or on the Internet.

Why cant this guy cite bible verses?

[For-Life]

Rev. Scott Boision. The Christian preacher is now forbidden for life from ever citing Bible verses regarding homosexuality in his sermons, or in newspapers, by email, on the radio, in public speeches, or on the Internet.

Why cant this guy cite bible verses?

Why can't two consenting adults who love each other marry each other in the US?

[DragonLensmanWV]

Rev. Scott Boision. The Christian preacher is now forbidden for life from ever citing Bible verses regarding homosexuality in his sermons, or in newspapers, by email, on the radio, in public speeches, or on the Internet.

Why cant this guy cite bible verses?

The only references to him were from blogs, which by their very nature are not necessarily true. Where's all the references to him from the above named "liberal" new stations?

[MasterCrafter]

Why can't two consenting adults who love each other marry each other in the US?

See its another example of changing the narritive.

Why cant Scott Boision cite bibilical verses in Canada?

[For-Life]

I don't know. I have no idea who he is. I am a knowledgable person, but I do not know everything.

All I know is I have written letters to the editor, I have had my own talk radio show in University, and I have taken free speech very far. I have never been in trouble for it.

[MasterCrafter]

The only references to him were from blogs, which by their very nature are not necessarily true. Where's all the references to him from the above named "liberal" new stations?

The liberal news stations never ran any footage of "rev wright" Obamas pastuer niether. They never run anything against liberals. But i agree Rev Wright has the right to say what he says. I just feel the news stations should have let everybody know what he says so everybody would have seen what kind of man Obama listned to the last 20 years.

[MasterCrafter]

I don't know. I have no idea who he is. I am a knowledgable person, but I do not know everything.

All I know is I have written letters to the editor, I have had my own talk radio show in University, and I have taken free speech very far. I have never been in trouble for it.

Try taking that speech in the direction of traditional values or about muslim extremists and see what happens.

Look at this.. liberals always have this reaction when they dont like what they hear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp891...ture=topvideos

[For-Life]

The liberal news stations never ran any footage of "rev wright" Obamas pastuer niether. They never run anything against liberals. But i agree Rev Wright has the right to say what he says. I just feel the news stations should have let everybody know what he says so everybody would have seen what kind of man Obama listned to the last 20 years.

I see the "liberal" news stations always running stuff against the left wings.

Let's be perfectly frank here. The "liberal" news stations are hardly liberal at all. In 2002 and 2003, something was happening. All over the World, the news stations were publishing both sides of the argument. They showed what actually was happening with this situation, and it led to predictable consequences if the situation moved forward.

In the US, CNN, NBC, CBS, ect, all towed the Republican President's line, not presenting the other side of the story. They never discussed what was really happening, but instead only published what was coming out of the White House.


This event in question was the War on Iraq. There was so much of the truth not published by American journalists leading up to the War. Information such as that there were no WMDs, that Saddam was destroying the weapons he did have, that every ultimatum Bush was providing Saddam, Saddam was following, ect.


Your media failed you, and failed you because they towed the Conservative line.

[MasterCrafter]

I see the "liberal" news stations always running stuff against the left wings.

Let's be perfectly frank here. The "liberal" news stations are hardly liberal at all. In 2002 and 2003, something was happening. All over the World, the news stations were publishing both sides of the argument. They showed what actually was happening with this situation, and it led to predictable consequences if the situation moved forward.

In the US, CNN, NBC, CBS, ect, all towed the Republican President's line, not presenting the other side of the story. They never discussed what was really happening, but instead only published what was coming out of the White House.


This event in question was the War on Iraq. There was so much of the truth not published by American journalists leading up to the War. Information such as that there were no WMDs, that Saddam was destroying the weapons he did have, that every ultimatum Bush was providing Saddam, Saddam was following, ect.


Your media failed you, and failed you because they towed the Conservative line.

LOL

You truely do not know the news media

[For-Life]

Try taking that speech in the direction of traditional values or about muslim extremists and see what happens.

Look at this.. liberals always have this reaction when they dont like what they hear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp891...ture=topvideos

I agree that some liberals do not believe in freedom of speech, just like some conservatives do not agree with freedom of speech. But to say that Canada has no freedom of speech and if you say something wrong you will wind up in jail... That is just wrong.

Again though, where is your freedom when two consenting adults that are not providing harm to each other are not allowed to marry each other?

[For-Life]

LOL

You truely do not know the news media

I think I just proved that you do not know the media.

[Uncle Fester]

The liberal news stations never ran any footage of "rev wright" Obamas pastor neither. They never run anything against liberals. But i agree Rev Wright has the right to say what he says. I just feel the news stations should have let everybody know what he says so everybody would have seen what kind of man Obama listned to the last 20 years.

False!

But you have to watch them to know.

Google Reverend Wright and any media you want and you'll find extensive coverage.

[MasterCrafter]

I think I just proved that you do not know the media.

Name someone on MsNBC who is conservative, CNN -? , ABC - ?, CBS -? , NBC- ?, CBC- ?

[Spexvet]

Now 20 States have been allowed to sue the new Romneycare health care law by a !@#$ activist judge.

Nice! We need to get rid of those activist judges, especially the ones who put Bush in the whitehouse in 2000.


JG43, learn to use the "reply with quote" button so we know what you are referencing. Thanks.

but Government has crossed the line and prevented God from school ( which violates our rights)

You are right. Every morning, school children should be forced to pray to Allah.

and political correctness and the Liberal leftist have deemed it unfit for anyone to use God or reference God in public ( also violates our constitutional rights).

That is a downright lie. god is referenced way too much, even Obama ends every speech with "god bless America". Please stop lying.

My position on The Ground Zero Mosque? I think it is wrong of them to be so heartless and uncaring I think they should move it. Do they have a right to put what they want on their property, well Yes, of course! But I think it is indeed insensitive to the ones who were murdered by Those Muslims on 9/11.

How would you like to stop the mosque from being built? Would you like the government to get involved?:hammer:

Interesting! But you are wrong! Flat out wrong. Legislators and those elected into office ( such as senate and congress) for the State or Federal all make laws. Judges do not make laws! Constitution gives the federal government the power to make laws voted byt senate and congress and then passed by the president. Judges ENFORCE or interpret the law! The do not Make them.

This is what one things that is wrong with America total ignorance and I am shocked that you say you are a law student! Judges can RULE that a law passed by the legislative branch and executive branch are unconstitutional and overturn a that "law" but they do not make laws!

Are you implying that you know more than someone who has passed his bar exam? That's pretty arrogant and elitist of you.

I was not saying they built the government using the ten commandments but that would not have been a bad idea! What is wrong with thou shalt not steal? or thou shalt not kill?

What should the penalty be for coveting thy neighbor's wife? How about working on Sunday? Hmmmm?

no religious monarchy there! just basic fundamental principles given by God.

If the principles are given by god, it is, by definition, a religious government.

Take Obama, he is a progressive socialist who beleives our rights come from him, not the creator.

Another blatant lie. Do all conservative repubicans lie this much?

It is the progressive movement from the early 1900's that really wanted to separate church and state. The founding fathers did want some separation but they certainly did not want it to this extent.

You need to do some additional research.

I do believe God put Obama in office! no doubt at all on that one. I am a Christian and I believe in God of course!

Then why do you hate him so much?

But I take a stand against the man God put in office and that mans ideals and beliefs on murdering the unborn, and many many of his other anti American beliefs.

Abortion is not murdering the unborn, nor is it an anti-American belief. Most Americans support a woman's right top decide what to do with a clump of cells in her uterus.

Just because God put a man in office does not mean that man is right and what he says is from God and that Christians should support him. God calls me as a Christian to respect the authorities in my life and to honor them I do respect Obama because he is the president but I pray against his policies and I will do everything in my legal power to vote against him and his attempts to take away our freedoms. :)

What about the will of the people? If the will of the people is to allow something specifically forbidden by god, like a tattoo, let's say, should it be allowed. In Other words, should America obey your god's rules, Muslim American's god's rules, or the will of the American people?

hmmm, so when he said we need to "spread the wealth around"

A stronger middle class makes a stronger America, and is better for our economy. The Bush Recession would not have happened, were it not for the huge wealth gap that the conservative repubicans caused.

or when he talks about "social justice" this means nothing?

Any justice system is based on societal norms, hence "social justice".

I dont need Rush to tell me things,

Is that Glen Beck's hand I see moving your mouth?

Demonizing his opponets.

Who has he demonised? Saddam Hussein? No, that was Bush. Ambassador Wilson? No, that was Bush. Pelosi and Reid? No, that's the TEA baggers. Who?

Demonizing business, pushing for socialist health care.

Jesus healed people for free, and would support socialized healthcare. He told me so. He Also fed the masses and the hungry for free. He told me to tell you that you should do that, too.

What do you think he is some capitalist champion? He loves the free market all of a sudden?

No, he always has. He just doesn't want the free market to trample the middle class into the ground. And the free market is trying to, you know.

Global warming is the new way Socialists are trying to control the masses. Until people understand this, are country is dooomed to go the way of Europe/Canada where they have no free speech.

No free speech in Europe/Canada? Open you eyes, lady! Get your information from somewhere other than Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Oreilly, and the rest of those crazies.

In Canada you could be jailed for saying anything about muslim extremists

Ask Mark Steyn, maybe he did not go to jail, but if he didnt have the money to fight them with lawyers, maybe your average joe would have

Who has been jailed for saying anything about muslim extremists? Anybody? Beuhler?

[For-Life]

Name someone on MsNBC who is conservative, CNN -? , ABC - ?, CBS -? , NBC- ?, CBC- ?

Every single one of those news companies, except the CBC, is guilty of publishing White House bias news leading into the invasion on Iraq. Why did these media stations keep the truth from the public? Why did they only present the conservative news?

[DragonLensmanWV]

Name someone on MsNBC who is conservative, CNN -? , ABC - ?, CBS -? , NBC- ?, CBC- ?

YOU prove that there are no conservatives. You share the burden of proof also, don't just some in and spout rhetoric and challenge anyone to prove you wrong. Because even if we do, you won't accept it.

[DragonLensmanWV]

The liberal news stations never ran any footage of "rev wright" Obamas pastuer niether. They never run anything against liberals. But i agree Rev Wright has the right to say what he says. I just feel the news stations should have let everybody know what he says so everybody would have seen what kind of man Obama listned to the last 20 years.

They never run anything against liberals? Never? Ever? Prove it!