Originally Posted by Spexvet
When every President enters office, they redo the decor in the Oval Office. I picked on Obama, because both Dems and Republicans need to be picked on when they are showing excess.
When every President enters office, they redo the decor in the Oval Office. I picked on Obama, because both Dems and Republicans need to be picked on when they are showing excess.
Here's the deal. Healthcare is essential to have a happy productive society. Those with insurance miss fewer days, produce more, and potentially contribute more to the bottom line.
Perhaps we should just do away with any government provided services. We already have people clamoring for changes in education. Perhaps we ought to do the same for fire and police as well. Some areas (in case you didn't read the story about the guy's home being allowed to burn due to non-payment of a $75 protection fee) already have this in place for fire departments. I know here in Indiana they bill your insurance company and sometimes the home owner if no insurance for responding to a call. Seems taxes don't cover that in all areas..
Anyone read Jennifer Government? Working as a cop, she had to get money and charge the family in order to launch and investigation into a murder. Why have any "socialist" protections in place? Lets make all the roads toll roads! Being able to breathe is not an option compared to say.. owning a car.
Personally I think the extensions of unemployment need to come to an end. Or at least make them take jobs (even if Fast food or agriculture) and then we could help supplement the rest (basically supplemental unemployment). While there isn't as many "high paying" jobs out there compared to a few years ago, there are still jobs. I would consider myself a centrist. I vote for both parties and in a few cases even libertarian! on a regular basis. I just believe that we should have fundamental right to health care and to eliminate the disparities in outcomes between the haves and the have nots.
"Some believe in destiny, and some believe in fate. But I believe that happiness is something we create."-Something More by Sugarland
No i do not.... as little govt as possible in my eyes
OK Progressive Insurance company is not a big business? They helped elect Obama and helped the Dems win in 2006 with huge donations. Also Obama was the largest recipient of Big Oil during the 2008 election. All of the media(excluding Fox News) and Oprah thru all thier weight and clout behind Obama. Sounds like some pretty big corporations too me
Now lets look at things here. Harry Reid.. he was not a millionaire when he was elected. Over the years in office he is suddenly a millionaire. How does a Senator become a millionaire? Obama/Millionaire, John Kerry/wealthiest millionaire. Biden, Clinton, the list goes on and on. Its not just Republicans. So people need to stop with the class warfare nonsense.
Now 20 States have been allowed to sue the new Romneycare health care law by a !@#$ activist judge.
Oh Fester, your play on words has banned you to the cellar. Do you not have something to blow up like Gomez's train set? :shiner:
Well, in the case of the senior senator from Massachusetts, John Forbes Kerry, you marry a millionaire. His second wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, the Catsup queen, is worth up to $3.2 billion. He also is benificiary to a few petty trusts inherited by the Forbes family.
As I said go look at the documents. The there is no separation of church and state in the constitution. as you have said it is an idea, an idea by Thomas Jefferson. and the idea in its context was to prevent government from telling people how to worship and who they can worship. We both agree any god who you or I see fit! but Government has crossed the line and prevented God from school ( which violates our rights) and political correctness and the Liberal leftist have deemed it unfit for anyone to use God or reference God in public ( also violates our constitutional rights). My position on The Ground Zero Mosque? I think it is wrong of them to be so heartless and uncaring I think they should move it. Do they have a right to put what they want on their property, well Yes, of course! But I think it is indeed insensitive to the ones who were murdered by Those Muslims on 9/11.
Interesting! But you are wrong! Flat out wrong. Legislators and those elected into office ( such as senate and congress) for the State or Federal all make laws. Judges do not make laws! Constitution gives the federal government the power to make laws voted byt senate and congress and then passed by the president. Judges ENFORCE or interpret the law! The do not Make them.
This is what one things that is wrong with America total ignorance and I am shocked that you say you are a law student! Judges can RULE that a law passed by the legislative branch and executive branch are unconstitutional and overturn a that "law" but they do not make laws!
They believed that God had no place in government? Where do they say that? and you obviously have not read the writings of Washington they started congress by praying! and they continue to this day!
The prophets did not rule over the people, they had leaders and judges and Gods law was set and the leaders would enforce those laws. I was not saying they built the government using the ten commandments but that would not have been a bad idea! What is wrong with thou shalt not steal? or thou shalt not kill? no religious monarchy there! just basic fundamental principles given by God. the executive branch, legislative, branch and the judicial branch.
Here we have John Raese. I'm sure you've heard about the "hicky" ad, and he proudly says "I got rich the old-fashioned way - I inherited it!"
And as for the poor ol' boys in the right being left out - Rupert Murdoch! Who owns almost the entire Media so often portrayed as The Liberal Media. Yep, nobody more liberal than Murdoch.
DragonlensmanWV N.A.O.L.
"There is nothing patriotic about hating your government or pretending you can hate your government but love your country."
Do you believe in God? (I'm sure it's yes)
Do you trust in God (I think you say yes)
Do you believe in His Divine Plan, which no human may know? (probably yes)
Then why are you so dead set against the man God put in office?
DragonlensmanWV N.A.O.L.
"There is nothing patriotic about hating your government or pretending you can hate your government but love your country."
Thats what progressives are trying to do. They always change the narrative. They are trying to take god totaly out of the equation.
Take Obama, he is a progressive socialist who beleives our rights come from him, not the creator. When riciting parts of the Declaration of Independence he said not once but at least on 2 occasions "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
It should say (we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed By Thier Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness)
It is the progressive movement from the early 1900's that really wanted to separate church and state. The founding fathers did want some separation but they certainly did not want it to this extent.
I do believe God put Obama in office! no doubt at all on that one. I am a Christian and I believe in God of course! But I take a stand against the man God put in office and that mans ideals and beliefs on murdering the unborn, and many many of his other anti American beliefs. Just because God put a man in office does not mean that man is right and what he says is from God and that Christians should support him. God calls me as a Christian to respect the authorities in my life and to honor them I do respect Obama because he is the president but I pray against his policies and I will do everything in my legal power to vote against him and his attempts to take away our freedoms. :)
Obama is not a socialist and is no where near to a socialist. Quit spewing Rush Limbaugh bs.
Obama just does socialist stuff, that does not make him a socialist!!! Gee Limbaugh get your act together!
You can do some somewhat socialists things and not be a socialist. Look at Canada. The nation is full of capitalism. Private business drives the nation. But it still has socialized health insurance, education, water treatment facilities and a police force. It is still not a socialist nation. Not even close.
hmmm, so when he said we need to "spread the wealth around" or when he talks about "social justice" this means nothing? I dont need Rush to tell me things, i hear and read what he says in his own words. Demonizing his opponets. Demonizing business, pushing for socialist health care.
What do you think he is some capitalist champion? He loves the free market all of a sudden?
Global warming is the new way Socialists are trying to control the masses. Until people understand this, are country is dooomed to go the way of Europe/Canada where they have no free speech.
See, you are taking something small and blowing it out of proportion. You can love free markets and still believe that the rich should be charged a tax rate of 35% and the poor a tax rate of 15%.
And I have lots of free speech up here in Canada. Otherwise I would not be typing here on this forum.
See, this is the issue I was talking about earlier. I want to have reasonable discussions here on this forum about solutions to problems. But once you start spitting out the "communist" and "socialist" and "every nation in the world is doomed because it does not have free speech" junk, how can we actually do that?
If you want to discuss real facts and figures and proven scientific ways of solving problems, then great. But let's be adults and leave the name calling and exaggerating for the kids.
In Canada you could be jailed for saying anything about muslim extremists
I have never heard of a Canadian jailed for bashing muslim extremists.
Watch, right now, I will do it "Muslim Extremists ride Carpets"
Do you think the police will be here soon?
Ask Mark Steyn, maybe he did not go to jail, but if he didnt have the money to fight them with lawyers, maybe your average joe would have
Here is what happened to Mark Steyn:
- He wrote an article for Maclean's magazine called "The Future Belongs to Islam."
- The article received a complaint to the Human Rights Tribunal concerning the fact that there was no opportunity for someone to write an opposing article in the same magazine (they were not complaining about what he said, but the fact that the magazine did not allow them to debate with him in the magazine)
- The Ontario Human Rights Tribunal refused to listen to the case due to jurisdiction, but did mention that Macleans was using bias journalism and commented that media should be fair and unbiased
- The Canadian Human Rights Tribunal dismissed the case off the bat, because there was nothing wrong with the article.
So there you have it. Nothing wrong with freedom of speech. All that happened is some extreme group put in a complaint about it, and there was absolutely no proof to bring it forward. This could be like someone putting a complaint in about you about you distributing cocaine. The police check it out, find nothing, and everyone moves on (because you were not distributing cocaine).
Again, this is what I am talking about when I said exaggerating things.
And, keep in mind, it was your nation that tried to lock up people such as Larry Flynt.
The Ontario Human Rights Commission refused in April 2008 to proceed, saying it lacked jurisdiction to deal with magazine content. However, the Commission stated that it, "strongly condemns the Islamophobic portrayal of Muslims ... Media has a responsibility to engage in fair and unbiased journalism
Like racial profiling and other types of discrimination, ascribing the behaviour of individuals to a group damages everyone in that group. We have always spoken out on such issues. The OHRC is mandated to express what it sees as unfair and harmful comment or conduct that may lead to discrimination.
CHRC says - That is why Canada and most other democracies have enacted legislation to place reasonable limits on the expression of hatred.
Not exaggerating, these people are the ones to judge what is unfair or hate speech? Talking about islamic extremists is hate speech? If you dont understand the premises of the argument, they are saying what Steyn writes about is hate speech, which it clearly is not.
Exactly!! This is why both political partys in the US are messed up. There should be as little as possible what a person can and cannot say under the 1st amendment. So we should basicly be able to express our views
Read this and tell me if i was exaggerating
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-kaf...of-mark-steyn/
Like i said... no free speech in Canada
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