View Poll Results: What do you think of Transitions Next Generation?

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  • Best Photochromic yet.

    40 65.57%
  • Best Plastic Photochromic but not better than PGX/PGB.

    10 16.39%
  • I don't like NG.

    3 4.92%
  • I haven't seen a pair yet.

    6 9.84%
  • I don't know.

    2 3.28%
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Thread: The Transitions Challenge

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    The Transitions Challenge



    I think enough time has passed since the Next Generations rollout that most of us have fit a pair of Transitions. What does everyone think so far?

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    Wave

    Having worn pgx before, and with a total power of +6.00 in one eye i still have the marks in my nose to prove it... These NG transitions are far superior in all ways but above all else its how clear they go. Had the ultimate test yesterday wore them to watch a film in the cinema could not tell the diffrence even when i swopped glasses for my normal (cr39 uncoated) pair....
    Just waiting for a nice sunny day (could be a long wait over here) to see how dark they really get..

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    Although i do not wear them myself(cl wearer) i just made a pair with a/r for my wife. She love's them. She keeps commenting on how clear they are indoors....compared to her old T3's.

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    God willing and the creek don't rise...

    God willing and the creek don't rise I'll have mine by Expo.....although I also have a pair of Trivex's on order so I don't know what I'll be wearing.
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    Smilie

    Sean, your wife should be amazed at how clear they are indoors. with a Crizal Ar, or Ziess or whichever Ar you like...the Trans NG lenses have a higher light transmittance than a clear non-coated lens. They darken in like 40 seconds instead of nearly 4 minutes...I got some in Varilux Panamics, an awesome combination of technologies.

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    I see we have 2 votes for the "Dont like NG".
    Would these voters please share what it is they dont like about them. I'm sure Transitions would like all the feed back they can get, and bad is sometimes better than good.
    This could be your chance to shape the future of photochromic lenses..

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    I voted best best yet because I think it is overall. If they're looking for suggestions though, my number one complaint is the fact that they don't darken well in the car. I understand why, its just the one place this product needs improvement. They haven't been out long enought to see if they start retaining color indoors as they get older.

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    alternative to clear

    ...great lens, clearer, darker, faster. Even Einstein thinks so.

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    specs13 said:
    ...my number one complaint is the fact that they don't darken well in the car.
    The pair I got last week actually turn 15%-20% in the car depending on how bright it is out. Not a sunglass but still not bad for a plastic photochromic.

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    I have to say I was impressed with some of the graphs and numbers about Next Generation that Transitions showed at their Thursday night party. It's clear they've made great strides with each generation of Transitions and this product is clearly approaching a true clear-to-sunglass product.


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    Thumbs up

    Texas Ranger said:
    Sean, your wife should be amazed at how clear they are indoors. with a Crizal Ar, or Ziess or whichever Ar you like...the Trans NG lenses have a higher light transmittance than a clear non-coated lens. They darken in like 40 seconds instead of nearly 4 minutes...I got some in Varilux Panamics, an awesome combination of technologies.
    Texas Ranger,
    Had them done with Crizal AR. It really boost's their performance. They even seem to be much darker inside the car.

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    1st Pair

    First pair out the box and still cold from the Airborne truck turned nice and dark even through the bathroom window. However they took their sweet time turning back. Give me my polarized any day.

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    second choice

    Tausch...of course the best sun lens option would be a cast polarization lens with back side A-R coating. Preferably the NuPolar by Younger...but for an alternative to clear lenses that happens to change outdoors...sweet.

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    Best Yet.......

    Have sold a few pair already and have had great success.........


    Here in Arizona mind you........Still waiting for a lens that works behind a windsheild............

    Mikol:cheers:

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    Hello N Tausch,
    Remember, I takes good visible light to make a darkened photochromic lens return to clear state. Good lighting from an incandescent source is the best. Flourescent and halogen lighting give off low level uv, this lighting will slow fade back and in some circumstance cause a clear lens right out of the case to pick up some color.
    You mentioned the lens was cold from the delivery truck. This also contributed to the slower fade.
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    Sold 2 pairs

    DBF Tranzitions . Our Lensometerman and the Edgeman were shoked in disbelif when I showed them how it changed colour.
    I do not have any clue whether those are NG or older Tranzitions.
    How to know?


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    I'm a new Optiboard member and thought I'd comment here. I've been dispensing the NG lenses since they were released with much success. Patients previously wearing the T3 lenses have given high praise to the NG lenses. I just made a pair for myself and really love them. Just waiting to see how well they perform in the heat of the summer. Most of the complaints I have received on the old T3 lenses have been in the summer when our temperatures reach the 90 - 100's.

    My only question is when will they be available in Mid-Index and Hi-Index material?

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    Hello j_gustafson,

    Transitions have been available in Mid Index (1.53-1.56) materials since 1995. Essilor and Varilux Ormex, Younger Optics Youngerlite, X-Cel Optical 1.55 and AO·SOLA Spectralite Velocity are the brand names. You can buy Aspheric SV, ST 28, ST 35 and TriFocals along with the most adanced PAL Designs.

    Transitions in Trivex (1.53) material is available from HOYA (HOYALUX Phoenix) and soon from Younger Optics (Trilogy).

    Transitions in 1.67 High Index SFSV and PAL designs is availble from Seiko Optical.

    All of these products represent the best technology on the market in the respective lens material.

    Transitions 1.50 NG completed the upgrade for Transitions Lens technologies.
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    Hi Jim,

    Thanks for your reply. I am aware of the Transitions producrts that you mentioned. What I was wondering is when will the NG Transitions be available in other lens materials. My lab can't seem to to give me any definite answer. They say polycarbonate SV will be released sooner than any other hi-index material.

    Any info will be appreciated!

    Thanks!
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    Hello j_gustafson,

    The Velocity, Panamic Ormex, X-Cel Optical 1.55 mid index, all Transitions poly, HOYA Phoenix and Younger Trilogy Trivex and 1.67 Hi Index Transitions are from the Quantum Technologies family of photochromics. You will find these products as clearer, much faster activation and fade and less temp dependent than TIII technology. These products do very well in high temperatures.

    There are no plans to upgrade these products in the near future, they are only 18 months to 2 years old.

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    Question

    Jim,
    What is the life expectancy of the NG with normal use?

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    Hello Sean,

    Transitions NG are 3x better than TIII 1.50 lifespan and there is no discoloring of the polymer as it ages.

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    Jim,
    Thanks for the quick reply.You don't know how many times i've had customers ask me if the NG would discolor ...... like their old T-III's. Happy to say that so far the NG a has been very well received by previous T-3 customers.

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    Since we see each other many.....

    Sean,
    Since we see each other many times a week I could deliver this message in person....problem is....I keep forgeting.

    If you go to the Transitions website you will find a place where you can order the new brochures for Transitions NG.They have a neat feature which goes a long way in creating interest in the product.Part of the brochure is a plastic film which is photochromic.You have the customer take it outside and it gets dark.I gave one to a customer yesterday and told him I'd go out to the car to get own pair.He came with me.....I got halfway across the parking lot and he said "don't bother....I can see what the lens does!" His brochure showed him.

    There is no charge for the brochures and they are a wonderful sales tool.My endorsment is unsolicited, but it is a shameless plug for a great product.

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    Harry,
    Thanks for the info.Is this something new on the website?.................or did i just overlook it. As i have been to the sight a couple of times or so within the last couple of weeks. Oh well,at any rate i'll give it another look.Once again...many thanks.:)

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