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    If we forgot a lab, please let it know- this was a hard list to get together, because I do not think that anyone has a complete list!

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    Awesome, but there are some E labs showing up on it.

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    I know some of the 'chain' labs are still on the list, but it took so long to put together that I just now update with ELOA Lab, Zeiss Lab, Hoya lab etc.. For a complete list, you can copy, paste and delete

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    Omega Optical Labs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ryser View Post
    Essilor International has earned the “CFnews award for the best international acquisition strategy” in the large company category. CFnews, an online publication specialized in corporate finance, presents the award every year to a French company.

    In 2008, Essilor invested over €500 million to complete 27 acquisitions worldwide, including Satisloh, the world’s leading supplier of prescription laboratory equipment. Acquisitions in 2007 and 2008 added 5.1% to growth in 2008, leading to an overall increase in revenue of 9.7% at comparable exchange rates. Essilor is committed to pursuing acquisitions over the long term.

    Since 2003, it has acquired 95 companies, primarily in the prescription laboratory market.
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    DALLAS – (October 2, 2007) – Essilor of America, Inc. (EOA) announced today it has acquired a majority stake in KBco. By acquiring KBco, a leader in the quality polarized lens segment, Essilor will expand its position in this rapidly growing market.

    KBco is one of the largest polarized lens distributors in the United States supplying retail chains and eyecare professionals (ECPs) through an extensive distribution network of wholesale laboratories. KBco has a broad offering of innovative high quality polarized products. They focus on being closely connected to their customers and on maintaining high levels of customer service.

    “This acquisition will allow Essilor to expand our presence in the polarized segment of the industry. It will enhance our portfolio of products to support our customer base,” said John Carrier, president Essilor of America (EOA). “KBco will continue with business as usual. We will work with Kurt Hollinger, John Olsen and their management team to leverage Essilor’s strength in product research and development, distribution, marketing, and financial resources.”

    Created in 1987, KBco sells throughout North America to the optical industry. Kurt Hollinger will remain President and John Olsen as COO. The rest of the KBco’s current management team will remain in place. KBco will operate as an independent subsidiary of EOA. Customers, suppliers, and other business partners will continue to interface with KBco as they do currently.

    “We believe that this acquisition will greatly benefit our customers and employees alike.” stated Kurt Hollinger, President KBco. “Through this acquisition Essilor and KBco will be able to utilize the strengths of both companies to help our customers build their businesses.”

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    Omega is ELOA

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    I didnt' put it in because I knew it was an essilor lab, the hard ones are the partner labs

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    I wonder how much longer this take over is going to go on before an anti-trust action starts against Essilor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousCat View Post
    Stylemark.

    Who or what is Stylemark?

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    Thanks Curious Cat!

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    Sure with they were buying up old struggling independent optical retailers. But then I guess they intend to get us by attrittion after the control the wholesale market and we all owe them more than we can afford to pay.

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    Taken from another thread...

    Just incase the link dies, here is the list of subsidaries... Wow. A great example that business strategy and marketing are far more important than providing great products.
    • 20 20 Optics
    • 21st Century Optics Inc.
    • AG Opticals Inc
    • AR Coating SA
    • Aai Joske's S de RL de CV
    • Accu Rx Inc
    • Advance Optical
    • Apex Optical Company Inc.
    • Aries Optical Ltd.
    • Athlone
    • BB GR SASU
    • BBGR GmbH
    • BBGR Lens Iberia S.A.
    • BBGR Optique Canada Inc.
    • BBGR Skandinaviska
    • BBGR United Kingdom
    • BNL Eurolens
    • BSA Industries
    • Barnett & Ramel Optical Co. of Nebr.
    • Beauty Glass Pvt Ltd.
    • Beitler Mc Kee Company
    • Brasilor Participacoes Sc Ltda.
    • Canoptec Inc.
    • Caribbean Inc.
    • Cascade Optical Ltd
    • Ceditop
    • City Optical Pty Ltd.
    • Collard Rose
    • Corinne McCormark, Inc
    • Crossbows Optical Ltd
    • Custom Optical
    • Custom Surface Ltd.
    • Dac Vision Inc
    • Dac Vision SAS
    • Danyang
    • De Ceynunck & Co. NV
    • Delamare Sovra
    • Delta Lens Pvt Ltd
    • Deschutes
    • Dibok_Aspen Optical
    • Dioptics Medical Products
    • Domlens
    • Dunlaw Optical Laboratories Inc.
    • ELOA California Acquisition Corp.
    • ESSILOR GmbH
    • ETC South East Asia Pte Ltd.
    • Eastern Optical Laboratories Ltd.
    • Econo Optics
    • Embrapol Sul
    • Empire
    • Epics Labs Inc
    • Epodi
    • Essidev SASU
    • Essilor AB
    • Essilor Argentine S.A.
    • Essilor Asia Pacific Pte Ltd.
    • Essilor Australia Pty Ltd.
    • Essilor Austria Gmbh
    • Essilor Belgium S.A.
    • Essilor Canada Ltd.
    • Essilor China Holding Co Ltd
    • Essilor D.O.O Slovenia
    • Essilor Da Amazonia Industria e Comercio Ltda
    • Essilor Danmark A.S.
    • Essilor España, S.A.
    • Essilor European Shared Service Center Ltd.
    • Essilor Hong Kong
    • Essilor India Pvt Ltd
    • Essilor Ireland (Sales) Ltd
    • Essilor Italia S.p.A.
    • Essilor Laboratories New Zealand Ltd.
    • Essilor Laboratories of America Corp
    • Essilor Laboratories of America Holding Co Inc
    • Essilor Laboratories of America, Inc
    • Essilor Laboratories of America, LP
    • Essilor Laboratories of Australia Pty Ltd
    • Essilor Laboratory South Pty Ltd
    • Essilor Laboratory Western Australia
    • Essilor Latin America &
    • Essilor Lens Australia Pty Ltd.
    • Essilor Ltd
    • Essilor Malaysia Sdn Bhd
    • Essilor Manufacturing (Thaïland)Co Ltd.
    • Essilor Manufacturing India Pvt Ltd
    • Essilor Manufacturing Philippines Inc
    • Essilor Mexico
    • Essilor Middle East Ltd
    • Essilor Nederland BV
    • Essilor Nederland Holding BV
    • Essilor New Zealand Ltd.
    • Essilor Norge A.S.
    • Essilor OY
    • Essilor Optical Laboratory Thailande
    • Essilor Optical laboratory Polska Spzoo
    • Essilor Optika Kft
    • Essilor Optika OOO
    • Essilor Optika Spol s.r.o.
    • Essilor Optika doo
    • Essilor Polonia
    • Essilor Portugal Sociedade Indutrial de Óptica, Lda
    • Essilor Romania SRL
    • Essilor S.A.
    • Essilor South Africa (Pty) Ltd.
    • Essilor of America Holding Co Inc.
    • Essilor of America Inc.
    • Essor
    • Eye Care Express Lab Inc
    • Eye-Bar, Inc
    • Eyebiz
    • Eyebiz Laboratory Co Ltd
    • FGX Canada Corp
    • FGX Europe Limited
    • FGX International Holdings Ltd
    • FGX International II Limited
    • FGX International Limited China
    • FGX International, Inc
    • Farol
    • Focus Optical Labs, Inc
    • Foster Grant Hong Kong
    • Frames For America
    • Frames and Lenses
    • Future Optics FL Inc
    • Future Optics TE Inc
    • GBO
    • GKB Optic Tech Private Ltd
    • GKB Rx
    • Gentex Optics Inc.
    • Groupe Vision Optique
    • Gulfstates Optical Laboratories Inc.
    • Hawkins Optical Laboratories Inc
    • Hobart Optical
    • Holland Optical Corp. BV
    • Holland Optical Instruments BV
    • Homer Optical
    • Horizon Optical Company Ltd.
    • ILT Malaysia
    • ILT To Latin america
    • Infield Safety GmbH
    • Infield Safety Italia, SRL
    • Infield safety UK, Ltd.
    • Integrated Lens Technology
    • Interstate Optical
    • Invoptic
    • JZO
    • Jorgenson Optical Supply Cy.
    • K & W Optical Ltd.
    • Kaleido Vision Pte Ltd
    • LTL S.p.A.
    • Lenscom Optics
    • MGM
    • MOC Acquisition Corporation
    • Mc Leodd Optical Company Inc.
    • Mega Optic Design
    • Metro Optical Ltd.
    • Mont-Royal
    • Morrison Optical
    • Multi Optica Distribuidora Ltda.
    • NEA Optical LLC
    • NOA
    • Nassau Lens Co Inc.
    • Next generation
    • Nika Optics
    • Novacel Ophtalmique
    • Novisia
    • OMI
    • OMICS Software Inc
    • OOGP
    • OPSG Ltd.
    • OSA Investments Holdings Pte Ltd
    • Oftalmika Galileo Spa
    • Omax
    • Omega Optical General Inc.
    • Omega Optical Holdings Inc.
    • Omega Optix S.R.O.
    • Omega Optix S.R.O.
    • Opal Lite Inc.
    • Optical Dimension
    • Optical Laboratories
    • Optical One
    • Optical Suppliers Inc. (Hawaï)
    • Optical Venture Inc
    • Optifacts Inc.
    • Optilens Italia s.r.l.
    • Optim
    • Optimatrix
    • Optique Cristal
    • Optique Lison Inc.
    • Optique de l’Estrie Inc.
    • Optisource International Inc.
    • Optodev
    • Organic Lens Manufacturing
    • Ozarks Optical Laboratories
    • P.T Optical Support of Indonesia
    • P.T. Essilor Indonesia
    • Pech Optical
    • Peninsula Optical Lab.
    • Perferx Optical Co Inc
    • Personnal Eyes
    • Perspectics
    • Pioneer Optical Inc.
    • Polilyte Asia Pacific Pte Ltd
    • Polilyte Shanghai
    • Polylite Beijing
    • Polylite Hong Kong
    • Polylite Taiwan Optilab
    • Precision Optical Co. (Connecticut)
    • Precision Optical Lab. (Tennessee)
    • Prescription Safety Glasses Pty Ltd
    • Pro Optic Canada Inc.
    • Prolab
    • Quantum Direct LLC
    • Quantum Optics, Inc
    • R & R Optical Laboratory Ltd.
    • Rainbow Optical
    • Reliable Optics
    • Rupp & Hubrach Optik Gmbh
    • SDL
    • SMJ Holding Pte Ltd
    • SMJ Holding Pte Ltd Taiwan Branch
    • Sankar
    • Satisloh AG
    • Satisloh Asia and Trading Ltd
    • Satisloh Gmbh
    • Satisloh Holding AG
    • Satisloh Iberica
    • Satisloh India
    • Satisloh Italy Spa
    • Satisloh Ltd Grande
    • Satisloh North America
    • Satisloh Photonics AG
    • Satisloh SAS
    • Satisloh Schenzen
    • Satisloh Zhongshan
    • Sentralslip
    • Shanghaï Essilor Optical Co. Ltd.
    • Signet Armorlite (Holland) BV
    • Signet Armorlite Asia
    • Signet Armorlite Canada, Inc
    • Signet Armorlite Columbia SA
    • Signet Armorlite Europe Ltd
    • Signet Armorlite Germany Holding GmbH
    • Signet Armorlite Iberica
    • Signet Armorlite Inc
    • Signet Armorlite Optic
    • Signet Armorlite Portugal Unipessoal SA
    • Signet Armorlite de Mexico, SA et CV
    • Sinclair Optical Laboratories
    • Skaggs and Gruber, Ltd d.b.a
    • Sofi de Chihuahua
    • Southwest lens
    • Speciality Lens Corp.
    • Stereo Optical Co. Inc.
    • Sudop Industria Optica Ltda.
    • SunStar Inc.
    • Sunix Computer Consultants Pty Ltd
    • Sutherlin Optical Company
    • Tasmanian Optical Cy Pty LTD
    • Tec Optik
    • Technopark Comercio de Artigos Opticos SA
    • Tecnolens
    • Tikai Vision
    • Tri Supreme Optical LLC
    • Ultimate Optical Lab
    • United Optical Laboratories
    • Vaco Holding S.A.
    • Vijay Vision Pvt Ltd.
    • Vision & Value
    • Vision Pointe Optical Inc.
    • Vision-Craft Inc.
    • Westlab
    • Wholesale Lens Corporation Limited
    • Winchester Optical Company

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick777 View Post
    Taken from another thread...
    Just incase the link dies, here is the list of subsidaries... Wow. A great example that business strategy and marketing are far more important than providing great products.
    • 20 20 Optics
    • 21st Century Optics Inc.
    • AG Opticals Inc
    • AR Coating SA
    • Aai Joske's S de RL de CV
    • Accu Rx Inc
    • Advance Optical
    • Apex Optical Company Inc.
    • Aries Optical Ltd.
    • Athlone
    • BB GR SASU
    • BBGR GmbH
    • BBGR Lens Iberia S.A.
    • BBGR Optique Canada Inc.
    • BBGR Skandinaviska
    • BBGR United Kingdom
    • BNL Eurolens
    • BSA Industries
    • Barnett & Ramel Optical Co. of Nebr.
    • Beauty Glass Pvt Ltd.
    • Beitler Mc Kee Company
    • Brasilor Participacoes Sc Ltda.
    • Canoptec Inc.
    • Caribbean Inc.
    • Cascade Optical Ltd
    • Ceditop
    • City Optical Pty Ltd.
    • Collard Rose
    • Corinne McCormark, Inc
    • Crossbows Optical Ltd
    • Custom Optical
    • Custom Surface Ltd.
    • Dac Vision Inc
    • Dac Vision SAS
    • Danyang
    • De Ceynunck & Co. NV
    • Delamare Sovra
    • Delta Lens Pvt Ltd
    • Deschutes
    • Dibok_Aspen Optical
    • Dioptics Medical Products
    • Domlens
    • Dunlaw Optical Laboratories Inc.
    • ELOA California Acquisition Corp.
    • ESSILOR GmbH
    • ETC South East Asia Pte Ltd.
    • Eastern Optical Laboratories Ltd.
    • Econo Optics
    • Embrapol Sul
    • Empire
    • Epics Labs Inc
    • Epodi
    • Essidev SASU
    • Essilor AB
    • Essilor Argentine S.A.
    • Essilor Asia Pacific Pte Ltd.
    • Essilor Australia Pty Ltd.
    • Essilor Austria Gmbh
    • Essilor Belgium S.A.
    • Essilor Canada Ltd.
    • Essilor China Holding Co Ltd
    • Essilor D.O.O Slovenia
    • Essilor Da Amazonia Industria e Comercio Ltda
    • Essilor Danmark A.S.
    • Essilor España, S.A.
    • Essilor European Shared Service Center Ltd.
    • Essilor Hong Kong
    • Essilor India Pvt Ltd
    • Essilor Ireland (Sales) Ltd
    • Essilor Italia S.p.A.
    • Essilor Laboratories New Zealand Ltd.
    • Essilor Laboratories of America Corp
    • Essilor Laboratories of America Holding Co Inc
    • Essilor Laboratories of America, Inc
    • Essilor Laboratories of America, LP
    • Essilor Laboratories of Australia Pty Ltd
    • Essilor Laboratory South Pty Ltd
    • Essilor Laboratory Western Australia
    • Essilor Latin America &
    • Essilor Lens Australia Pty Ltd.
    • Essilor Ltd
    • Essilor Malaysia Sdn Bhd
    • Essilor Manufacturing (Thaïland)Co Ltd.
    • Essilor Manufacturing India Pvt Ltd
    • Essilor Manufacturing Philippines Inc
    • Essilor Mexico
    • Essilor Middle East Ltd
    • Essilor Nederland BV
    • Essilor Nederland Holding BV
    • Essilor New Zealand Ltd.
    • Essilor Norge A.S.
    • Essilor OY
    • Essilor Optical Laboratory Thailande
    • Essilor Optical laboratory Polska Spzoo
    • Essilor Optika Kft
    • Essilor Optika OOO
    • Essilor Optika Spol s.r.o.
    • Essilor Optika doo
    • Essilor Polonia
    • Essilor Portugal Sociedade Indutrial de Óptica, Lda
    • Essilor Romania SRL
    • Essilor S.A.
    • Essilor South Africa (Pty) Ltd.
    • Essilor of America Holding Co Inc.
    • Essilor of America Inc.
    • Essor
    • Eye Care Express Lab Inc
    • Eye-Bar, Inc
    • Eyebiz
    • Eyebiz Laboratory Co Ltd
    • FGX Canada Corp
    • FGX Europe Limited
    • FGX International Holdings Ltd
    • FGX International II Limited
    • FGX International Limited China
    • FGX International, Inc
    • Farol
    • Focus Optical Labs, Inc
    • Foster Grant Hong Kong
    • Frames For America
    • Frames and Lenses
    • Future Optics FL Inc
    • Future Optics TE Inc
    • GBO
    • GKB Optic Tech Private Ltd
    • GKB Rx
    • Gentex Optics Inc.
    • Groupe Vision Optique
    • Gulfstates Optical Laboratories Inc.
    • Hawkins Optical Laboratories Inc
    • Hobart Optical
    • Holland Optical Corp. BV
    • Holland Optical Instruments BV
    • Homer Optical
    • Horizon Optical Company Ltd.
    • ILT Malaysia
    • ILT To Latin america
    • Infield Safety GmbH
    • Infield Safety Italia, SRL
    • Infield safety UK, Ltd.
    • Integrated Lens Technology
    • Interstate Optical
    • Invoptic
    • JZO
    • Jorgenson Optical Supply Cy.
    • K & W Optical Ltd.
    • Kaleido Vision Pte Ltd
    • LTL S.p.A.
    • Lenscom Optics
    • MGM
    • MOC Acquisition Corporation
    • Mc Leodd Optical Company Inc.
    • Mega Optic Design
    • Metro Optical Ltd.
    • Mont-Royal
    • Morrison Optical
    • Multi Optica Distribuidora Ltda.
    • NEA Optical LLC
    • NOA
    • Nassau Lens Co Inc.
    • Next generation
    • Nika Optics
    • Novacel Ophtalmique
    • Novisia
    • OMI
    • OMICS Software Inc
    • OOGP
    • OPSG Ltd.
    • OSA Investments Holdings Pte Ltd
    • Oftalmika Galileo Spa
    • Omax
    • Omega Optical General Inc.
    • Omega Optical Holdings Inc.
    • Omega Optix S.R.O.
    • Omega Optix S.R.O.
    • Opal Lite Inc.
    • Optical Dimension
    • Optical Laboratories
    • Optical One
    • Optical Suppliers Inc. (Hawaï)
    • Optical Venture Inc
    • Optifacts Inc.
    • Optilens Italia s.r.l.
    • Optim
    • Optimatrix
    • Optique Cristal
    • Optique Lison Inc.
    • Optique de l’Estrie Inc.
    • Optisource International Inc.
    • Optodev
    • Organic Lens Manufacturing
    • Ozarks Optical Laboratories
    • P.T Optical Support of Indonesia
    • P.T. Essilor Indonesia
    • Pech Optical
    • Peninsula Optical Lab.
    • Perferx Optical Co Inc
    • Personnal Eyes
    • Perspectics
    • Pioneer Optical Inc.
    • Polilyte Asia Pacific Pte Ltd
    • Polilyte Shanghai
    • Polylite Beijing
    • Polylite Hong Kong
    • Polylite Taiwan Optilab
    • Precision Optical Co. (Connecticut)
    • Precision Optical Lab. (Tennessee)
    • Prescription Safety Glasses Pty Ltd
    • Pro Optic Canada Inc.
    • Prolab
    • Quantum Direct LLC
    • Quantum Optics, Inc
    • R & R Optical Laboratory Ltd.
    • Rainbow Optical
    • Reliable Optics
    • Rupp & Hubrach Optik Gmbh
    • SDL
    • SMJ Holding Pte Ltd
    • SMJ Holding Pte Ltd Taiwan Branch
    • Sankar
    • Satisloh AG
    • Satisloh Asia and Trading Ltd
    • Satisloh Gmbh
    • Satisloh Holding AG
    • Satisloh Iberica
    • Satisloh India
    • Satisloh Italy Spa
    • Satisloh Ltd Grande
    • Satisloh North America
    • Satisloh Photonics AG
    • Satisloh SAS
    • Satisloh Schenzen
    • Satisloh Zhongshan
    • Sentralslip
    • Shanghaï Essilor Optical Co. Ltd.
    • Signet Armorlite (Holland) BV
    • Signet Armorlite Asia
    • Signet Armorlite Canada, Inc
    • Signet Armorlite Columbia SA
    • Signet Armorlite Europe Ltd
    • Signet Armorlite Germany Holding GmbH
    • Signet Armorlite Iberica
    • Signet Armorlite Inc
    • Signet Armorlite Optic
    • Signet Armorlite Portugal Unipessoal SA
    • Signet Armorlite de Mexico, SA et CV
    • Sinclair Optical Laboratories
    • Skaggs and Gruber, Ltd d.b.a
    • Sofi de Chihuahua
    • Southwest lens
    • Speciality Lens Corp.
    • Stereo Optical Co. Inc.
    • Sudop Industria Optica Ltda.
    • SunStar Inc.
    • Sunix Computer Consultants Pty Ltd
    • Sutherlin Optical Company
    • Tasmanian Optical Cy Pty LTD
    • Tec Optik
    • Technopark Comercio de Artigos Opticos SA
    • Tecnolens
    • Tikai Vision
    • Tri Supreme Optical LLC
    • Ultimate Optical Lab
    • United Optical Laboratories
    • Vaco Holding S.A.
    • Vijay Vision Pvt Ltd.
    • Vision & Value
    • Vision Pointe Optical Inc.
    • Vision-Craft Inc.
    • Westlab
    • Wholesale Lens Corporation Limited
    • Winchester Optical Company
    OH MY!!


    That's a SPICY MEATBALL!


    That is impressive and very depressing all at the same time!

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    I was hunting for that thread and couldn't find it. Here is a truely scary picture: http://www.essilor.com/en/Group/Inte...oratories.aspx

    Yes, that says Essilor owns 332 labs world wide, with 190 being in North America....
    There are rules. Knowing those are easy. There are exceptions to the rules. Knowing those are easy. Knowing when to use them is slightly less easy. There are exceptions to the exceptions. Knowing those is a little more tricky, and know when to use those is even more so. Our industry is FULL of all of the above.

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    Blue Jumper Here is one more 2 days ago..................................

    Essilor acquires Stylemark,
    a leading US distributor of non-prescription glasses

    Charenton-le-Pont, France (December 14, 2011)

    – FGX International, an Essilor US subsidiary, has completed the acquisition of all outstanding shares in Stylemark, one of North America’s foremost designers and distributors of non-prescription reading glasses and sunglasses.

    Based in Ormond Beach, Florida, Stylemark employs approximately 340 people and generates around $140 million in annual revenue in North America. Each year, it sells more than 30 million readers and sunglasses in nearly 30,000 retail outlets, mainly in the food, mass retail, drugstore and department store segments. It boasts a large portfolio of licensed brands, including Nine West
    ®, Dockers®, Reebok®, Hello Kitty® and various Disney® properties.

    The acquisition will enable FGXI to add new customers, consolidate the two companies' business and enter the fast-growing department store segment. The expanded business will also enhance the efficiency of its supply chain.

    The Stylemark acquisition is fully aligned with the strategy launched two years ago, with the purchase of FGX International, to extend Essilor’s offering of eye health solutions, particularly in the presbyopia segment. "There are 2.4 billion people in the world who need corrective eyewear but don’t wear any," said Hubert Sagnières, Chief Executive Officer of Essilor. "By strengthening our positions in the non-prescription reading glass market, we are speeding our expansion in a fast-growing segment and giving ourselves additional means to develop a high-quality offering of affordable eyesight correction solutions for a wide range of people around the world. In addition, Stylemark’s expertise in sunglass frame distribution will enable Essilor to effectively meet growing demand for eye protection solutions."

    The transaction will be financed using Essilor’s existing credit facilities. Based on current estimates, it is expected to be neutral to earnings per share in 2012 and accretive starting in 2013

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    We do very well with the dockers line but I always get them from a 3rd party salesman NOT Stylemark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFruit View Post
    Signet Armorlite, KBCo, Specialty Lens Corp, Gentex, Nassau Vision, Shore Lens, 49% of Transitions Optical, Frames Direct.

    Here's the ELOA map of the labs that they have aquired: http://eloa.com/Network/
    Wow. How is an independent going to compete with that. It cost big E about 1/8 what it cost an independent to produce similar products. On top of that, they own most decient equipment companies. Here is another link you may find helpful:
    http://www.essilorusa.com/EN/Pages/Employment.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Garza View Post
    We do very well with the dockers line but I always get them from a 3rd party salesman NOT Stylemark.
    Isn't that like saying "I get my frames from Luxottica, not LensCrafters"? In the end, the money all goes to the same place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed View Post
    Wow. How is an independent going to compete with that. It cost big E about 1/8 what it cost an independent to produce similar products. On top of that, they own most decient equipment companies. Here is another link you may find helpful:
    http://www.essilorusa.com/EN/Pages/Employment.aspx
    Despite Essilors size and breadth, many of the products are simply now mediocre:

    The Crizal series was great 10 years ago, but it takes an enormous amount of time to get, processing is innefficient, its prone to crazing and much more durable AR's are now much less expensive. Even some of the "standard" AR's beat the Crizals in Colts testing.

    the Comfort was great (in 1993) but it has not been top dog since about 1998. The Panamic was generally mediocre at best. The Physio is good but only came out when Free-form was taking off. Varilux has in general provided very inferior Free-form products and had to hire Seiko to redo the 360 series to reduce non-adapts. The DRx is their first decent lens in ages really, but its still beaten by cheaper rivals. They still don't offer a wide variety of materials, like other manufacturers.

    Have any of their sales reps ever dispensed? Long gone are the Essilor reps that could actually help you solve problems or understand your patient needs. Do you really want someone who has never had to deal with a non-adapt giving you progressive advise? The new Essilor reps are mostly
    cheerleaders (no offense to any of you few Essilor reps that actually have dispensing experience)

    They bought Reflection Free to make Crizal. They bought Shamir to make decent free-form. They bought Transitions to make Photochromic. All in all none of even thier best products have really come from in-house except the Comfort and Physio. And the Comfort was 19 years ago!

    They do not have a culture of innovation. Once they run out of companies to buy they will slowly suffocate in mediocrity because they have always depended on others to make good products. Its only a matter of time before it catches up with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizikal View Post
    We at Wal-Mart sell Essilor as Nikon . I know they own the brand name. We sell the Nikon Customized which is the accolade freedom.
    The Costco lens is also the same product. I'm curious which is longer - their subsidiary list of companies, or their rebranded list of all the same product?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick777 View Post
    Despite Essilors size and breadth, many of the products are simply now mediocre:

    The Crizal series was great 10 years ago, but it takes an enormous amount of time to get, processing is innefficient, its prone to crazing and much more durable AR's are now much less expensive. Even some of the "standard" AR's beat the Crizals in Colts testing.

    the Comfort was great (in 1993) but it has not been top dog since about 1998. The Panamic was generally mediocre at best. The Physio is good but only came out when Free-form was taking off. Varilux has in general provided very inferior Free-form products and had to hire Seiko to redo the 360 series to reduce non-adapts. The DRx is their first decent lens in ages really, but its still beaten by cheaper rivals. They still don't offer a wide variety of materials, like other manufacturers.

    Have any of their sales reps ever dispensed? Long gone are the Essilor reps that could actually help you solve problems or understand your patient needs. Do you really want someone who has never had to deal with a non-adapt giving you progressive advise? The new Essilor reps are mostly
    cheerleaders (no offense to any of you few Essilor reps that actually have dispensing experience)

    They bought Reflection Free to make Crizal. They bought Shamir to make decent free-form. They bought Transitions to make Photochromic. All in all none of even thier best products have really come from in-house except the Comfort and Physio. And the Comfort was 19 years ago!

    They do not have a culture of innovation. Once they run out of companies to buy they will slowly suffocate in mediocrity because they have always depended on others to make good products. Its only a matter of time before it catches up with them.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousCat View Post
    Compete by using: Seiko, Younger, Polycore, Zeiss Photofusion and an independently owned lab.
    Can we get up a list of independent labs?

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