My OD and I have decided not to go forward with Silhouette's "Seeing without boundaries" program. We do not feel we sell enough drill mounts to invest in another collection. Can any one recommend a brand of drill mount that is around the same wholesale cost as silhouette that does not require a huge buy in?
thanx
How about one that is less expensive but far more durable? Maybe not so stylish, but minimal at it's best. And no buy-in? And not a single solder anywhere on the frame.
Try Global Optique's Kishimoto line.
I'm not affiliated with Global, nor do I make anything from recommendations.
But .... in over two years not a single breakage, even when run over by a truck.
And they will replace the Silhs hole for hole.
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Dragonlensman had a great suggestion!
I would look at Acuity Opticals line of FreeForm Eyewear!
http://www.freeformeyewear.com/main2.html
Global Optique's Kishimoto line:
http://globaloptique.com/Frames.aspx?id=13
It's fantastic product, well styled, well made, and very saleable.
Its been well received on Cape Cod.
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I'll second that! :cheers:
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What about Titan Flex by BBH anyone have any input on this companys drill mounts?
sorry wrong thread
Last edited by jamie w; 12-16-2009 at 05:18 PM.
BBH?
They'll be discontinued around the time you need parts.
Stick to silhouette!
Barry
Freeform eyewear by acuity is an amazing product, we met with them yesterday actually and are very excited to bring them in.
I would really look into them before going too far with anything else.
Barry,
I know you are a big silhouette supporter but that is not an option for us. I do not do enough drilled rimless nor do I want to give up addional board space to make an additional investment in product from silhouette. Thanx for the advise any way.
jamie
Lindberg.
Beautiful and cost slightly more than a sillhoutte.... but really awesome.
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Thanx everyone for the suggestions! I did an order today with BBH. There dill mounts in their titan flex line where pretty cool! I like the idea of a memory titanium witch will give more flexability to the frame. Also, they are like a cross between a facet and a drill mount. However the nut and bolt are very flush to the lens. So there is not a large post sticking out behind your lens. Also, the colors of the chasis are nice. So hopefully this works well for us. We shall see!!
jamie:D
Silhoutte frames are the best on the market. I have sold the Acuity Free Form and you will be better off putting patients in a good frame like silhoutte than a cheap version.
For drill mounts, we use a variety of brands to meet our needs. Lightec and Koali for men and womens frames. The new Oga drill mounts are incredible and about the same price as a Silhouette.
The new Cinzia drill mounts for smaller (47) eye size but still with a cool temple.
I like the Haggar drill mount from i-Deal for a "slightly cool" look for men.
I have two Kishimoto's personally and they are great, but the lens designs are a bit lame and they don't come with a case.
For us, the temples and the Acuity freeforms were a bit too short for men, even me and I only wear a 51 135 eye.
Dude, no offense, but virtually everything you post sounds like your goal in life is to either work for 20/20 magazine or shill for the big optical corporations.
That's not a personal attack, it's just how you come across. I'm sure you're much more complex than that and I realize you're a successful business owner. You're also a far, far more skilled optician than I. But seriously dude, you're venturing into DB territory.
So Barry, you gonna ignore that rather than trying to explain your obvious conflict of interest?
I actually do understand a possible reason,. from your perspective, for the apparent the conflict of interest you inferr.
But it's not true.
I *like* Silhouette frames. Not all are gems, but their recipe for polyamide (SPX) lasts longer in client's hands than ANY OTHER PLASTIC FRAME I've ever encountered. And all without the industry standard, oh-so-necessary *spring-hinge* (which continue to fail miserably, IMHO).
Silhouette will be there in the future, I believe. Others may not. And there parts are almost all interchangeable from one generation of rimless collection to the next.
I'm a fan. You may not be. That's OK.
But's it's also OK for *me* to be a fan. I state my opinion, just like others. We can engage each other in a friendly fashion.
But...be patient if I don't read every thread I've posted to every day.;)
Barry
Last edited by Barry Santini; 12-21-2009 at 09:43 AM.
I'm a big believer in the Airlock series from Marchon. The mounting is a tad more durable than Silhouette's, and the wholesale is lower by a bit. Plus, Marchon considers it "core" product, so our discount is typicaly much higher than it is on name-brand stuff... which helps if you're doing it with any MVC. :D
Barry, you and I are in complete agreement about spring hinges. I'm sorry if I came across antagonistic, the thing is in person I talk the same way but you can see I'm half-joking, trying to get a rise. When typed, it sounds like I'm just being a jerk.
You do write for 20/20, though, and 20/20 is basically one big advertisement for the big corps., so my point was that you can't very well post here under your real name and be completely honest without risking that relationship.
Silhouette is so weird...Patients ask for them all the time, and many opticians swear by them. In my experience, however, selling Silhouette means someone coming in with a broken frame every week or so. Maybe I've inferred too much from too small a data sample.
In closing, I totally respect you, Barry, you're not only a gifted optician and a great voice for us, but an accomplished musician as well. I sure hope nothing I said leads anyone to believe I feel otherwise.
Actually, the Editor Jim Spina covets the fact that I will "speak my mind" and use my actual name.
I told them if they need a "yes" man...look elsewhere.
I'm told I'm not an irrational alarmist, so what I say, it seems, is "ok".
FWIW
Barry
DJ,
No disrespect meant but I can not stand Marchon Airlock. We carried it in our office for a few years. I can not stand the way the lenses are mounted. The lenses were constantly coming loose, no matter what kind of rx or material. I was forever changing peoples plugs when the lenses were loose and most times that did not help the lenses loosened up right away. Also, on the 770 series the temples always looked bowed out when the lenses were mounted. I do not wish to carry Silhouette anymore but their design was far superior to the Airlock design in my opinion.
jamie
oh, PS I did try a few diffrent labs so it was not a lab issue with how the lenses were mounted.
Interesting, I've never had an issue with the Airlock line. I too think the mounting design is superior in durability to the Silhouette. Just MHO.
To each his own, I guess. That hole-and-notch design just seems to hold up nicely, in my experience... I'd fit them any day over Silhouette!
Totally with you there
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