Progressives Lenses Revealed

[HarryChiling]

Harry:
You gonna run me outta ink printin all theses for side by side comparison.

Workin on that. ;)

[KStraker]

Uncut not edged is how they need to be, I provided those parameters if anyone is surfaceing.

One Scopus/Ilenco Concord on the way to you.

[IndianaOD]

So after all this work, which company in your opinion creates the most precise lenses?

Its great data, but does it really trump experience? The big question is..will it change any minds? Does it make a difference that a lens has a great map but no one can adapt to it?

[DoubleD]

Thanks for the link her Harry, Work looks great!
Been a few years since I've worked with this stuff, but comes back quick.
Word of caution to those viewing these PAL maps:
-There are two types of maps: Effective Power and actual power, Comparing "digital lens designs" make it difficult for actual power comparison.
-Different lens powers (particularily cylinder and add) dramaticaly changed percieved maps.
Thanks for your work- does show differences in design!
Denny

[Fezz]

I am sure that Harry has put out a huge amount of his own cash on this project.

Harry...............................can we pitch in to help offset your expenses? This is alot of hard work and scratch for you. We can all benefit from it!

You tell me where.......and the cash is on its way!

Thank you!

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

[Fezz]

Where can we send donations?

;):cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::D

[HarryChiling]

You can send lenses, but your money should go towards books, family, and the pursuit of happiness.

[Uncle Fester]

self delete...

[Uncle Fester]

So if I get a plano/+2.00 blank or find myself with a non returnable progressive (especially "digitally compensated") lens I can send it to be mapped too-

Rotlex
Unit 2D
Omer Industrial Park
Omer Isreal 84965

I should declare the value of the lens for I assume custom purposes as no more than $2.00.

In the interest of full disclosure is Rotlex associated with any progressives? (Sorry if this has been addressed in a previous post.)

According to USPS small package rate postage is from US east coast $1.40.

[Raanan Bavli]

So if I get a plano/+2.00 blank or find myself with a non returnable progressive (especially "digitally compensated") lens I can send it to be mapped too-

Rotlex

I should declare the value of the lens for I assume custom purposes as no more than $2.00.

In the interest of full disclosure is Rotlex associated with any progressives? (Sorry if this has been addressed in a previous post.)
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Yes, this is all correct. I only ask that you agree that this map will also be used (if Harry decides to do so) in the Association of Technical Opticians (ATO) project described by Harry at the top of this thread.

As for your question regarding Rotlex, we develop and manufacture inspection systems. We have no involvement, what so ever, in lens production, and we have no business relations with any lens manufacturer, other than selling and supporting our instruments.

[HarryChiling]

UPDATE:

22 new lenses added, cross sections being updated to include distortion. MarcE I got your lens will send out when I get a few more together, still working on a comparison tool should be done soon.

FUTURE UPDATES:

Distortion maps, RMS Power Error maps, horizontal cross sections for DRP, NRP, PRP. Progressive lens design course, yes design your own specify inset, corridor length, etc. Working on a section to create your own Surface Definition Files (SDF, Points files) by specifying progressive parameters for creating your own digital front side progressives.

[Jacqui]

Working on a section to create your own Surface Definition Files (SDF, Points files) by specifying progressive parameters for creating your own digital front side progressives.

Would work on back side progressives??

[HarryChiling]

Would work on back side progressives??

I honestly don't think I am at the point to add the two surfaces together, progressive and back side prescription. I could do a front side prescription and back side progressive, and front side progressive with a back side prescription. The more I read the more I learn so who knows what the future holds. The advantages of a front side toric with the back side add could be advantagous as well as an all back side job.

[Jacqui]

I honestly don't think I am at the point to add the two surfaces together, progressive and back side prescription. I could do a front side prescription and back side progressive, and front side progressive with a back side prescription. The more I read the more I learn so who knows what the future holds. The advantages of a front side toric with the back side add could be advantagous as well as an all back side job.

Keep me posted. I'm looking for software that the Evil Empire doesn't own and that I can call mine.
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If anyone knows where I can find one, let me know !!!!!

[misstara007]

I found your page very interesting -Thanks :)

[Uncle Fester]

Bump...

Harry C.

If I send my Rodenstock lenses to Isreal is it ok if I ask them to e mail the results to you or is it more efficient to forward them directly to Tony?

[Uncle Fester]

I'm not a lens manufacturer. My comapny develops lens inspection (and mapping) systems. The process is simple: if you send me a lens, I'll map it, and email you the lens map, along with software for analyzing lens maps. My shipping adress is:

Raanan Bavli

Rotlex
Unit 2D,
Omer Industrial Park.
Omer,
Israel, 84965

If you send lenses, please indicate that these are for research only and the commercial values is 1 - 2 $ per lens.

Reviving a thread to try to finish off lens designs that are still missing. Braheem in another thread that I can't find listed a bunch that he is apparently too busy to do so I was wondering if someone could find that post. If some good do-bees could each order a couple we can finish off the project.

They should be distance plano add +2.00 right lens

Now to try to find the list!


PS Thanks for the mailing Harry C!

[Uncle Fester]

By George I think I found it!

aps

Harry has spent $4K of his own money to offer us the maps, I'm offering to do the next 20 for market research.

If anyone has a PAL they would like to see added, Please list it below...


1. X-cel Freedom ID
2. X-cel Freedom 5
3. X-cel Freedom Fashions Fit
4. Concord Micra
5. Hoya Amplitude
6. Hoya Amplitude Mini
7. Hoya Summit CD
8. Hoya Summit ECP
9. Augen AIR
10. AUGEN PROGRESSIVE
11. Augen CENTURION
12. Augen CENTURION SHORT
13. Augen SPACIA
14. Augen TRINITY
15. Optima Hyperview
16. Rodenstock AT
17. Luzerne Sighstar
18. AO COMPACT
19. AO FORCE
20. AO SYNCHRONY
21. AO VISUALITY
22. AO CONTINUUM
22.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28. Polycore M - Supplied by Dragon
29. Polycore F - Supplied by Dragon
30. Polycore S - Supplied by Dragon
31. Rodenstock Classic Life - Supplied by Uncle Fester.
32. Rodenstock PureLife - Supplied by Uncle Fester.

Expanded to 32

I have one request, I will not pay for a PAL made by any company that sells directly to consumers.

[Uncle Fester]

Link to Tony's site for those who haven't already bookmarked it-

http://www.thelensguru.com/lensMaps.php

[Uncle Fester]

Bump-

Link to Tony's site for those who haven't already bookmarked it-

http://www.thelensguru.com/lensMaps.php

aps

Harry has spent $4K of his own money to offer us the maps...

If anyone has a PAL they would like to see added, Please list it below...


1. X-cel Freedom ID
2. X-cel Freedom 5
3. X-cel Freedom Fashions Fit
4. Concord Micra
5. Hoya Amplitude
6. Hoya Amplitude Mini
7. Hoya Summit CD
8. Hoya Summit ECP
9. Augen AIR
10. AUGEN PROGRESSIVE
11. Augen CENTURION
12. Augen CENTURION SHORT
13. Augen SPACIA
14. Augen TRINITY
15. Optima Hyperview
16. Rodenstock AT
17. Luzerne Sighstar
18. AO COMPACT
19. AO FORCE
20. AO SYNCHRONY
21. AO VISUALITY
22. AO CONTINUUM
22.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28. Polycore M - Supplied by Dragon
29. Polycore F - Supplied by Dragon
30. Polycore S - Supplied by Dragon
31. Rodenstock Classic Life - Supplied by Uncle Fester.
32. Rodenstock PureLife - Supplied by Uncle Fester.

Expanded to 32

Tony- Can you update the list? Any new ones that need to be added?

[WFruit]

I'd be happy to contribute some lenses once we get a current list up. From the list above I can certainly run and send all of the X-Cel and Hoya lenses listed if they are still needed.

Edit - I'm going to guess that the Younger Adage needs to be put on the list as well, which I can also do.

[Raanan Bavli]

I'm not a lens manufacturer. My comapny develops lens inspection (and mapping) systems. The process is simple: if you send me a lens, I'll map it, and email you the lens map, along with software for analyzing lens maps. My shipping adress is:

Raanan Bavli

Rotlex
Unit 2D,
Omer Industrial Park.
Omer,
Israel, 84965

If you send lenses, please indicate that these are for research only and the commercial values is 1 - 2 $ per lens.

[Uncle Fester]

After being in contact with Tony aka thelensguru he wants me to let everyone know he's putting them on his site a a central place for the maps.

So if Wfruit wants to run with the lenses he's listed just forward the maps to him and he'll post them.

Braheem- Do you want to pick up a few more?

Remember they should all be right finished blanks distance plano add +2.00

Compensated for POW lens blanks will not work.

[Darryl Meister]

I assume it is still the case that none of this applies to free-form progressive lenses, which must have each surface measured individually, the lens mathematically reconstructed, and the optical performance determined using ray tracing for a lens-eye model?

Best regards,
Darryl