We said we can't make these glasses...

[Against the Rule]

Just wondering if some experts here can explain why our owner had me tell a customer his Rx was impossible to obtain, and that neither we nor anyone else could provide it (owner may be telling the truth, that's why I'm asking)...
Rx is:
OD: Balance
OS: -12.00 -1.50 X 130
And here's the kicker: Add +6.00 OU
We surface and finish in house, but occassionally farm work out to other labs for AR or other reasons.
So is this Rx really impossible to produce, regardless of frame?

[cocoisland58]

So is this Rx really impossible to produce, regardless of frame?

Not impossible but apparently not something the owner of your business wants to deal with.

[Against the Rule]

Coco, we pride ourselves on being able to make any Rx...Do you think it's because the lens would cost so much for us we couldn't make enough money on it, or more the possibility that the patient couldn't adapt to it? I'm having trouble even picturing what the lens would look like.

[chip anderson]

All these heah postings bout Franklin bifocals an you say you don't know how to handle this? You ain't payin attention boy.

Chip

[Against the Rule]

All these heah postings bout Franklin bifocals an you say you don't know how to handle this? You ain't payin attention boy.

Chip

LOL! Nicely put.:cheers:
So, Chip...Would you make these glasses for the guy? I feel ashamed telling a patient we can't do it, and even more ashamed that I said no one can. If it's likely someone can I'd like to call the guy and let him know (not going to tell him you specifically can do it, just going to tell him not to give up).

[chip anderson]

Not something I'm looking forward to, but I'll do it. Will even do it for you if you send me the frame (must have full eyewire or plastic enclosed), 1 pair of lenses for distance Rx one for near Rx and seg.ht.

However I am not in thw wholesale, or lab business, I think Jackie in ND or SD is and makes these all the time.

Chip

[Against the Rule]

When you say one pair for distance, etc., do you mean two pairs of glasses? I assume you mean cutting in half, but I'm woefully ignorant on the matter.

[chip anderson]

Two pairs of SV lenses cut and edged for same frame, 1 pair for distance at distance P.D., 1 pair for near at near P.D. . I will split and mount.

[Against the Rule]

You're good people, Chip. PM'd.

[HarryChiling]

Traditional Lens Blank:
Signet Armorlite 0.50 base add 6.00 in CR-39

Non Traditional:
SV made as a Myoter Bifocal

Free form option:
Call Three Rivers Optical for their TRO seg.

I have a pretty simple rule about these kind of jobs, charge an additional $300.00 on top of the worked up price for all the recommended lens options, then tell them we'll call them with a idea of when and how they will be made, THEY ARE SPECIALTY.

[MarcE]

Traditional Lens Blank:
Signet Armorlite 0.50 base add 6.00 in CR-39

Sure! Why would they make 6.00 add in a 0.50 BC unles this Rx were possible.

You can also get round segs in 6.00 adds

[Chris Ryser]

Franklin Bifocals..............anybody that can do hand edging can do that.

Benjamin Franklin - BifocalsIn 1784, Ben Franklin developed bifocal glasses. He was getting old and was having trouble seeing both up-close and at a distance. ...
inventors.about.com/od/fstartinventors/ss/Franklin_invent_4.htm - 21k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

[cocoisland58]

Coco, we pride ourselves on being able to make any Rx...Do you think it's because the lens would cost so much for us we couldn't make enough money on it, or more the possibility that the patient couldn't adapt to it? I'm having trouble even picturing what the lens would look like.

When we have an Rx come in that we know is going to be difficult we sit the patient down and explain that while it can be done it will cost them a pretty penny and take extra time. There is no price on the list for this type of lens. You work with your lab and come up with one, present it to the patient and if they don't faint you proceed. What if the patient won't adapt? With an Rx like that one they have been adapting for years. You either take the chance or you pass. I know we've done a few lenses that have ended up costing us but our owner likes the challenge.

[DragonLensmanWV]

Traditional Lens Blank:
Signet Armorlite 0.50 base add 6.00 in CR-39

Non Traditional:
SV made as a Myoter Bifocal

Free form option:
Call Three Rivers Optical for their TRO seg.

I have a pretty simple rule about these kind of jobs, charge an additional $300.00 on top of the worked up price for all the recommended lens options, then tell them we'll call them with a idea of when and how they will be made, THEY ARE SPECIALTY.

We used the TRO seg once on a lady with about a -8.00 with about 4D cyl (IIRC) in Trans 1.60 with a 4 add backside round seg. They looked great! Horizontal axis,proper B size, and thick edge plastic frame all combined for a fine pair o' glasses. The seg was barely visible from the front and when darkened, totally invisible.

[drk]

Yike, I wonder what the diagnoses were?

One eye severely reduced acuity, so no binocularity worries.

+6.00 add's working distance 16 cm...approximately 40/16 = 2.5x relative size magnification.

That's some low vision.

Any worries about material used and waiver city?

[chip anderson]

DRK:
You know that a diagnosis could never be understood by us mear opticians. No need for the doctor to keep us in the loop on such medical matters that would require training that an optician couldn't comprehend.

Chip

[braheem24]

Great post DRK, exactly what I was thinking.


...but on top of all of those issues, do you really want to give a low vision patient only 28mm to look through?

[drk]

I would think that the purpose would be for "spotting"...e.g. looking at a menu in a restaurant, checking which key they're going to use, short-term stuff.

I would think that this patient has other LV aides at home for extended use.

[braheem24]

with AMD, spotting would be a little to the peripheries and may not be at a down gaze.

[drk]

Sure, if you're referring to eccentric viewing.

I meant more in terms of looking through a seg instead of grabbing a 2.5X handheld from your purse at the grocery.

[Fezz]

I am surprised that Chip hasn't suggested contacts yet!

:D:cheers::shiner::cheers:;)

[chip anderson]

Fezz:
I just assumed (sorry) that there was some reason other than practioner incompetence that this was not done.
Silly me.

Chip

[HarryChiling]

Have you tried monovision contacts:p. :D

[gemstone]

There is made a minus base rd seg in many different adds. Thy this company. Maybe your boss just don't know.
http://www.macraesbluebook.com/searc...company=489007

AIR-O-LITE

[chip anderson]

Harry:

Really now, monovision (which I detest even in low adds) seldom works in adds above 1.50 and it sho ain't gonna work on no 6 add.
And before you ask, no I don't think bifocal or modified mono-vision contacts are a good idea in this case either.
Monovision is the mark of a lazy or un-skilled practioner who either can't or won't fit bifocals.

Chip

Question for the day: Is 20/happy another name for 20/not complaining?