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    Fitting height

    How to measure fitting height in 5 seconds.

    Last edited by Bobie; 05-25-2008 at 09:59 PM.
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    I'd get dizzy trying to take a fitting ht while rotating like that.:bbg:

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    Is it steps for a new dance for an opticians ball?
    1 step 2 steps take a pd step?



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    Or Jet Li the optician?

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    I wonder what the patient is thinking??

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    It's fast and accurate. :D
    Last edited by Bobie; 06-01-2008 at 07:05 AM.
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    I like it.

    Interesting that the transilluminator is held at cheek level. Good images.
    Of course, this does seem predicated upon the optician and the patient being roughly the same height.

    Thanks.

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    pen light to measure from reflex in pupil

    Lock at the three fingers touching the face of the wearer , than hold the PD ruler by two fingers and use a pen light to measure from reflex in the pupil. After training it for a few hours , you will measure fitting height within 5 second and it will be very accurate.
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    Last edited by Bobie; 10-21-2009 at 05:21 AM.
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    Bobie,

    Maybe the title should read, "How to look good while measureing a segment height". Classy, way to sell the sizzle not the steak.
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    So what?

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    I have to ask......why is she wearing a crown and why does he have on two different ties in the rotating pics???? Sorry, I'm one of those people that sit through a movie and point out the inconsistencies.....:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyoptician View Post
    I have to ask......why is she wearing a crown and why does he have on two different ties in the rotating pics???? Sorry, I'm one of those people that sit through a movie and point out the inconsistencies.....:D
    It's a good movie though right?................ I think it's awesome that he adds a little pazzaz to his work it really shows that he enjoys what he is doing. My guess would be that with such a tight style of measureing he could probably add $$ on the sale just for having "Master Bobie" perform all the fittings, add to that the tux he's got going................. It beats selling "High End" eyewear in a blue jean dress shirt or boots. I think his style is top notch and it's obvious from his posts that his knowledge of the industry is top notch. It's no wonder he commands such a great price for eyewear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryChiling View Post
    I think his style is top notch and it's obvious from his posts that his knowledge of the industry is top notch.
    Agreed, it's great to see that type of passion and flair in this industry, make this somewhat stressful buying situation something memorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyoptician View Post
    I have to ask......why is she wearing a crown and why does he have on two different ties in the rotating pics???? Sorry, I'm one of those people that sit through a movie and point out the inconsistencies.....:D
    The crown.......well maybe he makes evrey lady (or man) feel like QUEEN when he helps them.

    The tie..........that I'm not sure about. Are you sure its not the sheen off of the jacket that appears to be a tie?

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    For all who don't like tuxido version of Bobi's fitting height method , I also have a student version of Advance Progressive Addition Lenses Club in Shanghai. :D

    Last edited by Bobie; 06-01-2008 at 07:09 AM.
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    Hey Bobie,

    That looks like one of the moves I perfected when I was training in Dim-Mak!

    :cheers::cheers::cheers:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fezz View Post
    Hey Bobie,

    That looks like one of the moves I perfected when I was training in Dim-Mak!

    :cheers::cheers::cheers:
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    The key to measure fitting height by Bobi's method is fast , accurate and smart

    The key to measure fitting height by Bobi's method is fast , accurate and looks smart for dispensing optician and it's very comfortable for the wearer.
    The beam of the pen light focusing on the pupil of the wearer only 1 second on each eye.



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    Last edited by Bobie; 06-01-2008 at 07:13 AM.
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    Bobie,

    How about the pd stick? Is that available as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryChiling View Post
    The Death PD. :D :cheers:


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    Harry:

    Can you calculate the effective parrallax for me of Bobie's method, assuming that his eye height is approximately 2-4 inches higher in the vertical plane than his clients (as it appears in the photo)?

    How would this affect the ordering of those $10k progressives, which are definable in corridor height to 0.1mm?

    Just thinkin'......

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    2 - 4 inches high, then I'll make and assumption of the arm length of 25 inches

    that gives us an angle of about 4.5 - 9 degrees which across the span of the vertex is about a 1 - 2 mm differnce in height roughly.
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    One day if you have to fitting 30 pairs of Individual Free Form PALs per day

    • For a new wearer of PALs , I will measure fitting height by setting up my eye higher than the wearer's eye 2 - 4 inchs, because it is much more easier to adap for a new wearer to walk down stairs or walking on a difference level.
    • One day if you have to fit 30 pairs of Individual Free Form PALs per day , 313 days per year , you will understand that there is no time for unnecessary things, because you have to adjust the frame and measure the PD / fitting height / Pantoscopic tilt angle / Face form angle / Cornea Vertex Distance and set up different corridors of trial PALs for wearers to try at distance, laptop & desktop computer and the biggest size of newspaper. ( I have only 15 minutes per case to do all of these procedures!)
    • 0.1 mm step corridor is nothing about fitting height , but about different designs of PALs for distance zone , intermediate zone and reading zone. For example if the wearer gets used to Ellipse corridor 9.5 mm at 14 mm corridor , when I'm fitting Rodenstock Impression FreeSign for him I will design 11.5 mm corridor even the new frame can adjust fitting height from 9.5 mm up to 22 mm.
    • You must be really an expert if you would like to play with 0.1 mm step corridors of PALs and the wearer will pay more for nothing on FreeSign if you are inexperienced.
    • Kodak Concise vs Ellipse vs Summit CD vs Nikon Presio i13 are working totally different because they are slightly different corridors.
    • My knowlege comes from over 30,000 pairs of hi-end PALs that I have been fitting for many years and I dare to say that , I'm the one who stand sright in the front line who can prove that many expensive PALs are not good enough as claimed.
    • Barry Santini , would you like to open your mind and come to me to learn the secret like my students or would you would like to walk around this secret from far and far away like most people do and don't learn anything!. :finger: ( Anyway , your life is yours )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyoptician View Post
    I have to ask......why is she wearing a crown and why does he have on two different ties in the rotating pics???? Sorry, I'm one of those people that sit through a movie and point out the inconsistencies.....:D
    I think that (what's on her head) is a "tiara". A fashion accessory for anyone (any girl or lady.. ahem) who wants to make a "royal" impression. It looks like some people like to dress up when they go to Bobie's. As for the two different wardrobes that Bobie is seen wearing.. only he could explain that.

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    If you like Latte , please come to visit me at ISOPTIK for one of the best Latte

    Most of my customers are billionaires who would like to have the world's best eyeglasses the world can get and they never care about the price tag.
    They have are used to dressing in 3,000 US$ clothes and buy them more than 300,000 US$ per year.
    ISOPTIK is located in the same building as Grand Hyatt ERAWANs , one of the best 5 star hotel that billionaire customers dress very luxurious for hi-so party nearly everyday.
    In fact , I don't wear a tuxedo everyday , but i wear it only sometimes when I have to join a hi-so party.
    Many billionaires around the world have been flying more than 10 hours to try the hi-end PALs at ISOPTIK because they don't know where they can get it in their country.
    At ISOPTIK , we sell only the hi-end PALs or nothing. After I set up Hi-End Eyeglasses project for many years and fitting more than 30,000 pairs of hi-end PALs , I feel very lonely , because nobody does it and most people in eyeglasses business still believe that it is impossible and they choose to believe that , it is absolutely impossible for one man to sell 1,000 pairs of hi-end PALs in 1 year.
    In fact , even my student in Advance Progressive Addition Lenses Club also did it already.
    For anyone who believe that , " Life is too short to limit your vision " and would like to join in hi-end eyeglasses centre business in ISOPTIK way , please contact me directly for the deep blue ocean eyeglasses business.
    For those who love to be in the red ocean eyeglasses business and believe that , most wearers don't want to pay more than 2,000 US$ for 1 pair of PALs , please stay away from me , because we are in a totally different world and we speak a totally different language

    If you like Latte , please come to visit me at ISOPTIK for one of the best Latte.

    :cheers: Cheer for Latte lover! & for people who believe that " Life is beautiful and sight is life "

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    Last edited by Bobie; 10-21-2009 at 05:47 AM.
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