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    Confused Drill Mount Charge

    What is the general feeling regarding charging the patient for drilling charges when they use an old frame they purchased from you? I am speaking about frames like the Silhouette TMA etc. Most labs charge 20-25 for drilling. When we sell a new frame the drilling charge is built into the selling price.

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    Well, they only buy the frame once and the lab keeps charging you for drilling, so I would say keep charging a drilling fee. If you have qualms about it, just keep it to a minimum, but cover your charge. I would maybe suggest not adding it to your frame price and let the patient know up front that this type of frame has a special charge for drilling, that way when they come back next time to get lenses, they won't be shocked they're getting charged something that they didn't get charged before.

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    Redhot Jumper lens plus installation...................

    Quote Originally Posted by handicapper98 View Post
    When we sell a new frame the drilling charge is built into the selling price.
    When you buy a new car the transmission is included in the purchasing price. When you have to replace it down the road, you pay for a new transmission plus the installation.

    Sane thing for new pair of lenses in old framem charge the lenses plus the installation.

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    I also "package" drill/groove charges into new frames. But I also "package" price quotes for lenses when POF is drill/groove jobs.

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    While not the transmission I can remember when things like radio, power steering, and lots of other accessories were added on at the dealer for extra costs.
    I suspect that the only thing the dealer adds on today that isn't factory installed are things like silly a-- spoiler plates.

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    I think you have to. Drilling charges are expensive. There is greater pressure to keep our prices down, so the end result is we cannot just afford to give free drilling.

    With that said, just add it into the lens price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by optical24/7 View Post
    I also "package" drill/groove charges into new frames. But I also "package" price quotes for lenses when POF is drill/groove jobs.
    I agree. Tell the patient it is included in the price. Customers hate to be nickel and dimed, but I find if you quote first and tell them after the price already includes the additional cost, this seems to always work well.

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    We charge $10 per hole. (It averages $40 pr)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns View Post
    We charge $10 per hole. (It averages $40 pr)
    We simply cover our cost at 20.00 and add it to the total price and refer to it as a "hands on drilling and mounting fee" when presenting it to the patient. I have never had anyone question it.

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    I've seen two methods of dealing with this. One office used special package prices for drillmount frames, new or patients own, which included things like poly and the drilling fees. Where I am now, we just charge a flat fee for the drilling. Either way works. Most people realize that drillmounts are different than normal frames, so they don't question it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns View Post
    We charge $10 per hole. (It averages $40 pr)
    And if its a notch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LENNY View Post
    And if its a notch?
    Since our machine is doing it anyway, we include that with the holes. If it's all notches, then we count them as holes. Two holes right next to each other count as one as well.
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    Price discussions belong in the Professionals Forum.

    Can a moderator edit/move this thread?
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    Redhot Jumper dont loose your cool..........................

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post

    Price discussions belong in the Professionals Forum.

    Can a moderator edit/move this thread?
    dont get exited Uncle Fester,.......................I don't think a discussion about some drilled holes for which you charge or not, a few bucks is a trade secret and has to be moved behind the curtain.

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    We charge 1 cent per drill revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    Price discussions belong in the Professionals Forum.

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    Hey Unc...

    We're not discussing wholesale pricing, but it you want me to...here goes:

    For the drilling on my drillmounts, it cost me:

    -$46,000 for the edger/drill machine.
    -$275 for the hand edger.
    -$.91 for the electricity.
    -$1.04 for the rent.
    -$.12 for supplies
    -$37,000.00 per year dfor the guy drilling it.

    So the wholesale cost to drill the holes that I charge $40 is actually...


    $83,277.07

    You know what, I think I'm going to start chaging $41 now!
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    I still think this discussion shouldn't be here.

    So THERE!:)

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    $50.00 - Includes drilling and polished edges, not included in our frame prices.

    Like Johns we drill in house, the labs we have tried have had poor quality in the past (drill no perpendicular to the base curve, crooked lenses, non-chamfered, and no drill seal) and I'm a control freak.:D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns View Post

    $37,000.00 per year for the guy drilling it.
    So I take it that you have experienced help,
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    Quote Originally Posted by OpticLabRat View Post
    So I take it that you have experienced help,
    Not a McTician.
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    Only the finest! (And I look forward to paying them more in the future.):cheers:
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    We charge $20 for drilling and $20 for grooving. Most patients understand the few that don't I explain it is because of the special handling required, and that we are not making a dime on the drilling fee (which is true). At this point they usually accept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns View Post
    Hey Unc...

    We're not discussing wholesale pricing, but it you want me to...here goes:

    For the drilling on my drillmounts, it cost me:

    -$46,000 for the edger/drill machine.
    -$275 for the hand edger.
    -$.91 for the electricity.
    -$1.04 for the rent.
    -$.12 for supplies
    -$37,000.00 per year dfor the guy drilling it.

    So the wholesale cost to drill the holes that I charge $40 is actually...


    $83,277.07

    You know what, I think I'm going to start chaging $41 now!
    yeah, if you use those machines for drilling only

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