View Poll Results: Who is your main progressive lens manufacturer

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  • Zeiss/Sola/AO

    12 13.33%
  • Essilor

    35 38.89%
  • Signet Armorlite (Kodak,Navigator)

    5 5.56%
  • Younger (Image)

    8 8.89%
  • Vision Ease (Ilumina, Outlook)

    4 4.44%
  • Shamir

    8 8.89%
  • Polycore

    1 1.11%
  • Pentax/Seiko

    0 0%
  • Hoya

    12 13.33%
  • House Brand (no name China stuff)

    5 5.56%
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Thread: What is your main manufacturer for Progressives?

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    Who is your main manufacturer for Progressives?

    I am wondering who is your main manufacturer for progressive lenses theese days. Lets say more than 50% of them used in the store.
    Last edited by LENNY; 05-02-2008 at 07:06 AM.

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    You left out Augen, Excelite (TOG), Rodenstock . . .;)

    No one likes a smart $ss. Do they??:bbg:

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    We used Essilor. Mainly because that is who our lab was and that was the best lab we could find. Oh, and because of Crizal. I used other ARs from other big names and was very sorry for doing so.

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    We use Essilor for a few reasons:

    1) They own Definity.
    2) We're Vision Source. They give us a good deal on pricing and they have an "exclusive" progressive for us.
    3) 90% of our area's labs are Essilor owned.

    I am not a big fan of behemoths, and I find Essilor's tactics in the optical marketplace to be similar to Microsoft's in the software market (and, to me, that is not a good thing). But they sure do give us incentives to work with them -- even if some of those "incentives" seem like arm-twisting.
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    Our primary go-to progressive is the Younger Image. But we use the Precise also.
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    What he said...

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Weiss View Post
    We use Essilor for a few reasons:

    1) They own Definity.
    2) We're Vision Source. They give us a good deal on pricing and they have an "exclusive" progressive for us.
    3) 90% of our area's labs are Essilor owned.

    I am not a big fan of behemoths, and I find Essilor's tactics in the optical marketplace to be similar to Microsoft's in the software market (and, to me, that is not a good thing). But they sure do give us incentives to work with them -- even if some of those "incentives" seem like arm-twisting.
    Sad but too true.

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    We were big essilor users until recently...We have starting using alot of Shamir products. Results are unbelievable:) Are local TCO lab can get everything except autograph, and they are going to put in the machines to do them...


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    I would say predominately Essilor as we have a really good relationship with the reps. They are very prompt with there turn around. Hoya and Nikon have really dropped the ball around here. A week plus for sv Hoya stock and NIkon calling 10 days later saying they can't make a set of lenses only turn around to say then can after we confront them on it. If those issues were worked out we would probably use each equally, but for the time being most new presbyopes are being fitted with Ipseo of Physio 360.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fvc2020 View Post
    We were big essilor users until recently...We have starting using alot of Shamir products. Results are unbelievable:) Are local TCO lab can get everything except autograph, and they are going to put in the machines to do them...


    christina
    Christina,

    "TCO" = Twin City Optical? If so, which one do you use? We've had problems with getting the Autograph through the one we use; if there's one in the network, I'm sure the lab manager will want to know. :)

    BTW, I agree on Shamir product. Both the Piccolo and Creation and great lenses and well-accepted.
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    Every one has to vote!

    The last poll that I post on this board was used in selling Optronic Edgers!
    BTW I did not get any compensation for that!!!!:drop:

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    Where's X-cel??

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    Unfortunately I could not find the way to modify my original choices.
    I also think that there are not to many people who would use X-cels or Excelite or Augens progressives as their lens of choice.

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    You should separate Varilux from the rest of the Essilor stuff, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LENNY View Post
    Unfortunately I could not find the way to modify my original choices.
    I also think that there are not to many people who would use X-cels or Excelite or Augens progressives as their lens of choice.
    We sell lots oif X-cel and Vision-ese here because they are Minnesota companies (instead of French).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
    We sell lots oif X-cel and Vision-ese here because they are Minnesota companies (instead of French).
    X-cel cost a small fortune!

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    Nikon ....hands down. Best service and quality of product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LENNY View Post
    X-cel cost a small fortune!
    They still sell good here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike.elmes View Post
    Nikon ....hands down. Best service and quality of product.
    Where are you ordering from Mike, Burnaby or Montreal? We have had really poor communication when it come to getting a response on whether a job can be completed or not.
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    Zeiss!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi View Post
    Where are you ordering from Mike, Burnaby or Montreal? We have had really poor communication when it come to getting a response on whether a job can be completed or not.
    We order online, if the job is a digital, it's automatically done in Montreal. We get many of the non digital stuff like the nikon i in 2-3 days.
    Digital stuff in 4-6 days. If ordered online, it simply won't accept the order if it's out or range. eg 5 cyl
    Last edited by mike.elmes; 05-06-2008 at 06:39 PM.

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    Do we have Nikon in US!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike.elmes View Post
    We order online, if the job is a digital, it's automatically done in Montreal. We get many of the non digital stuff like the nikon i in 2-3 days.
    Digital stuff in 4-6 days. If ordered online, it simply won't accept the order if it's out or range. eg 5 cyl
    We'll give that a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LENNY View Post
    Do we have Nikon in US!?
    ????

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    Nikon is available in the US.

    It is different from the Canadian Nikon. The Canadian one is more competition to Essilor, where the US one is more partners. We have different PALs and coatings too.

    Apparently, Nikon in the US is distributed by Wal-Mart.

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