Stanley Cup Playoffs!!!

**jediron1** · 05-15-2008, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Grubendol

Now there is a comment that ALL hockey fans can agree on.

That man has single handedly tried to kill the league at least 10 times in the last 15 years.

Oh come on not the Comish who almost cost us the NHL in the strike year and basically doesn't know a hockey stick from a pogo stick not that comish. :drop:

**For-Life** · 05-15-2008, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by jediron1

Oh come on not the Comish who almost cost us the NHL in the strike year and basically doesn't know a hockey stick from a pogo stick not that comish. :drop:

*clears throat*

He has his faults, but the strike was not his. Without the deal that he got, we would not have a decent NHL.

Edit - ZOMG 5000th post. I am now the best.

**Leo Hadley Jr** · 05-15-2008, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Grubendol

Now there is a comment that ALL hockey fans can agree on.

That man has single handedly tried to kill the league at least 10 times in the last 15 years.

Yea, it drives me nuts how they keep changing the rules to create more scoring. I dont mind the longer zone and the two line pass.....But all the ridiculous hooking penalties and power plays have got to stop.
And now they are talking about smaller goalie equipment and bigger nets. Give me a break.

The game is fine the way it is. I love a high scoring game, but I also love an edge of the seat, hard hitting, end to end, 0-0 tie in overtime game.
Thats just as exciting.

**For-Life** · 05-15-2008, 08:47 PM

I find it funny when they suggest larger nets.

Okay, I guess this is their theory. Games with more goals are more exciting. Therefore, create larger nets = more goals = more excitement.

My theory. Games with more goals can be more exciting. It is not the goal itself that is exciting, but the play, action, and scoring opportunities. Therefore, larger nets will do nothing to improve the game.

A 5-4 game is not necessarily more entertaining than a 1-0 game.

**jediron1** · 05-16-2008, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by For-Life

*clears throat*

He has his faults, but the strike was not his. Without the deal that he got, we would not have a decent NHL.

Edit - ZOMG 5000th post. I am now the best.

Ya great deal! ( if it had teeth then they would do like Baseball and penalize the Teams that over spend) Teams like the Red Wings are still out spending every one else except Tonto and Montreal and maybe Dallas and the Ducks but the wrest of the league is not in great shape. The contract was good in promise but in the end teams like the above are undermining it and the Comish is doing nothing. I would not bring up the Comishes in name places like Buffalo or Bean town not liked in those cities. just my take :bbg:

**For-Life** · 05-16-2008, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by jediron1

Ya great deal! ( if it had teeth then they would do like Baseball and penalize the Teams that over spend) Teams like the Red Wings are still out spending every one else except Tonto and Montreal and maybe Dallas and the Ducks but the wrest of the league is not in great shape. The contract was good in promise but in the end teams like the above are undermining it and the Comish is doing nothing. I would not bring up the Comishes in name places like Buffalo or Bean town not liked in those cities. just my take :bbg:

No team has spent over the cap. Toronto and Detroit are not outspending everyone, because they are right at the cap. This is why the Ducks were forced to trade away MacDonald, because they wanted Neidermeyer and could not have both with the cap. The spending difference between teams is minimal.

As or baseball, has one of the worst plans. This is way the Yankees spend over $250 million and other teams spend as little as $30 million. In the NHL, I think the range is between $35 million and $55 million.

**Spexvet** · 05-16-2008, 08:29 AM

Flyers Win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!:cheers:

Nice goon tactics by Malone and Crosby at the end of the game - poor sports. :finger:

**Grubendol** · 05-16-2008, 08:58 AM

Cros was doing goon tactics? He was getting slashed in the kneecaps so he defended himself and that is goon tactics?

The list of Bettman failures:
"All Star will do better in the middle of the week so it doesn't compete with other sports"
"The NHL doesn't need to be a major network, let's sign up with Outdoor Life and have them change their name...and then not have regular nights when everyone knows the game will be on"
Let's create new jerseys so we can sell them like made. So what if they make sweat and water pool in their skates and gloves. It will sell jerseys and make money"
"Strike/Lockout...two times over"

And I know it's not directly his fault, but by losing ESPN they also lost Barry Melrose, Bill Clement, and Gary Thorne, three of the best commentators/announcers the league had (at least on entertainment value). I swear if I hear Eddie Olczyk talk one more time about how he "coached Sidney Crosby until I got fired" I'm gonna want to shoot something.

**For-Life** · 05-16-2008, 09:03 AM

Ohh, he has had failures (though those new jersey's cut down on sweat, not create more). But what he was able to accomplish during the last lockout was top notch.

In my opinion, his biggest failure was his constant increase of the size of the NHL. He really watered down the talent and increased the NHL to a size that it could not handle. Plus, if you are going to move into a new market, how about pick a successful place like Hamilton versus a place like Nashville that is apathetic to the game.

**For-Life** · 05-16-2008, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Grubendol

And I know it's not directly his fault, but by losing ESPN they also lost Barry Melrose, Bill Clement, and Gary Thorne, three of the best commentators/announcers the league had (at least on entertainment value). I swear if I hear Eddie Olczyk talk one more time about how he "coached Sidney Crosby until I got fired" I'm gonna want to shoot something.

Too bad you guys do not get Hockey Night in Canada. Don Cherry, Rod McLean, Kelly Rhudey, and the best PBP/Colour commentators. Unfortunately, you guys got our bad export - Pierre McGuire.

**Grubendol** · 05-16-2008, 11:18 AM

I love hockey night in Canada! I have the Center Ice package with DirecTV so I do get them every once in a while. I love Don Cherry. He’s a kick in the pants.

**Spexvet** · 05-19-2008, 01:56 PM

**Grubendol** · 05-19-2008, 03:26 PM

Sorry Spex, but you could hardly be surprised about the ultimate elimination….sure it has to hurt that your guys got toasted by my guys in that final game, but…oh wait, I’m rubbing it in, and we’re usually on the same side…

Here let me pass you a conciliatory brew and suggest we route for the East together in the final ;)

**For-Life** · 05-19-2008, 03:33 PM

Congrats Pittsburgh.

However, facing Detroit will be no cake walk like Philly, NYR, or the Sens.

**Pete Hanlin** · 05-19-2008, 10:58 PM

Well the Stars finally gave up the ghost- but it was a heck of an effort!

Go PENS!

**cocoisland58** · 05-20-2008, 04:56 AM

The sound of air horns echo across the state. GO WINGS!!!!! Where's my octopuss? Here Stanley, here boy. :cheers:

**Grubendol** · 05-20-2008, 10:12 AM

It should be one awesome series…

Two teams with incredible offense and incredible defense. My bets are on goaltending being the deciding factor.

**rinselberg** · 05-26-2008, 01:50 PM

A sight you won't see anymore: NHL commissioner says throwing the octopus onto the ice is OK, but no more picking the octopus up and twirling it around like this photo of Joe Louis Arena building manager Al Sobotka.

Select ("click") the photo to read about the NHL commish'es ruling..

**Leo Hadley Jr** · 05-26-2008, 02:31 PM

Its hard to compare East teams to West teams until they actually play.
After watching game one I am feeling that Detroit might have the edge on speed and goaltending. I think speed and the transition game will decide the winner. I know both goalies can be stellar, I think game two will be the deciding factor.

If Detroit dominates Game 2..........its over. If the Pens can pull it together in Game 2......It will be a great series.

Detroit is very strong with the lead. It will be very important that the Pens take an early lead and keep firing on offense.

Looking forward to game 2 !!!!!

**Leo Hadley Jr** · 05-27-2008, 02:11 PM

Not looking good for the Pens.

**Grubendol** · 05-27-2008, 02:42 PM

I don’t want to talk about it :p

**cocoisland58** · 05-28-2008, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Grubendol

I don’t want to talk about it :p

I do! I do!:D Octopus anyone?

**Grubendol** · 05-28-2008, 05:55 PM

Well< i feel a little better today. I'm just gonna keep thinking about the 03 Ducks. They managed to turn a 0-2 start with two shut outs into a 7 game series.

I still feel if it goes 7, the Wings win it, but if the Pens can win the next two it gets interesting.

**jediron1** · 05-28-2008, 10:47 PM

Pens finally played a complete game probable will be their only win but at least for tonight they looked good. That save that Fluery made with the stick was ridiculous. Go Wings

**Leo Hadley Jr** · 05-29-2008, 05:57 AM

Game 3 was awesome!!!!!!!

Especially half way through the third period when they went 6 minutes without a whistle. I wish I could have seen that live.