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    Erase it from your memory menu

    Unless a pt. is happy.....and I usually question in my mind if they are just happy people in general, I won't go down the road of Panamic anymore.
    I prefer Definity. Course that was when I was employed till 4 sad weeks ago! Anyone know of any work in the S.F. Bay area? Help!!!! I am "the" only breadwinner, now my bread is moldy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by marslatte View Post
    Lately a large number of patients have been having problems with Varilux Panamic ( a lens which we have used to fit patients for the last 2 years, with out a problem). Now a large majority of patients are non-adapts. I don't know why. We have checked Rx, seg ht, PD, the common things you would think of.

    Does anyone one know if they have changed the lens in any way?

    At this point I want to stop using Panamic and start using another PAL, any suggestions on which one?

    Thanks!
    In our comtry Tunisia essilor stopped selling panamic because Of the bad feed bac Of this lens .

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    I recently (two weeks ago) attended an Essilor sponsored continueing education class. Not once in 4 hours did they mention panamic unless asked. The constantly referred to the comfort as being the best progressive ever designed. New lenses are being called comfort improvements.
    Appearentlly even Essilor doesn't think much of the Panamic design anymore. I wish some of thier very high index materials were available in comfort.

    Chip

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    is 1.67 not high enough for ya? I am pretty sure I have made comforts in 1.67 before.

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    ovation

    I ALSO HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH PANAMIC, AND HAVE LEARNED IF A
    PATIENT COMES IN WEARING OVATION-I LEAVE THEM IN AN OVATION.
    VALLIEO

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    Panamic is dynamic PALs

    After I have been fitting many thousand pairs of Panamic from 2000 to 2004 , my conclusion are at below ;

    1. Panamic is dynamic PALs that working good for wearer who are more active and move their head more than their eyes when looking at pheripheral. But if wearer have eyes movement more than head movement , Comfort will work better.
    2. Panamic is soft design PALs that working good for hyperope up to SPH. +2.00D ADD +2.00

    3. Panamic is not recommended for happy Comfort's wearer http://www.pinnacleoptical.com/docum...luxPanamic.pdf

    4. Panamic is working quite good for anisometropia less than 1.00D

    5. Panamic and Comfort are about the same for overall performance , some presciption Comfort better and some Panamic better , but if Panamic more expensive , Comfort will be much more value if compare about US$ per overall performance.

    6. Panamic working quite poor for wearer who have VA less than 20/25

    7. Panamic working better in day time and performance will drop in night time , especially in case that pupil smaller than 3 mm.

    8. Every free form PALs are much better than Panamic in any presciption.

    9. Panamic have flatter base curve than Comfort about 1 D and completely differenct design and work differently.

    10. Comfort have total better quality of vision than Panamic at all distance.

    11. Panamic have total better comfortable of vision than Comfort.

    12. Panamic is suitable for sport more than Comfort.

    13. If you sell Panamic more expensive than Comfort to Comfort wearer, do not give any guaranteed that Panamic better than Comfort.

    Last edited by Bobie; 05-21-2008 at 12:28 PM.
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