(01/08) Who would you like to see as the next President of the United States?

[1968]

I think Wyclef Jean is running also. :bbg:
...the son of a farmer for president.

If that's true, someone may want to inform him that he needs to be a "natural born Citizen" of the United States in order to be the POTUS.

[chip anderson]

Other ran a good race against Hillary in Michigan although he spent no money on the campaign, did no advertizing and was not only virtually but completely unknown.
I vote we all elect "Other" who would undoubtely be the best president we could have out of the present lot.
I personally can guarantee he would cost us a lot less money and time.

Chip:bbg:

[Pete Hanlin]

I'm still with Fred (but its beginning to look like there aren't many of us out there). :o

Huckabee is the opposite of what I'm looking for in a Republican candidate (he's socially conservative and fiscally liberal- I'm looking for something more along the lines of fiscally conservative and socially moderate).

I have a hard time understanding upon what basis McCain considers himself a Republican...

[rbaker]

Well, it's certainly not your fathers Republican Party. A liberal, socialist, secular humanism has infected the human genome and if not eradicated we are all doomed. Doomed, do you hear me, doomed.

Whew!

[1968]

Well, it's certainly not your fathers Republican Party. A liberal, socialist, secular humanism has infected the human genome and if not eradicated we are all doomed. Doomed, do you hear me, doomed.

Whew!

Given that Pete and I are roughly the same age, Barry Goldwater might have represented the Republican Party of our fathers. Which Republican candidate most resembles Goldwater is a discussion I would love to see here... because it sure isn't going to happen on Fox News!

[1968]

I'm still with Fred (but its beginning to look like there aren't many of us out there). :o

I've heard that Thompson and McCain are good friends. Any concerns that Fred may throw his support to McCain?

[rbaker]

Given that Pete and I are roughly the same age, Barry Goldwater might have represented the Republican Party of our fathers. Which Republican candidate most resembles Goldwater is a discussion I would love to see here... because it sure isn't going to happen on Fox News!

Well, how about Meldrim Thompson, former Governor of New Hampshire.

Live free or die!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meldrim_Thomson,_Jr.

[KStraker]

If that's true, someone may want to inform him that he needs to be a "natural born Citizen" of the United States in order to be the POTUS.

It's a reference to a song he has out now where he offers his candidacy for president.

In reference to Christian conservatives(from other posts): There's only one candidate who openly represents Christians, Mike Huckabee. I will not be voting for Romney since I prefer not to have a cult member for president. Mormonism is not another denomination of Christianity. It is a fundamentally different thing invented by a convicted scam artist and con man. Joseph Smith was arrested in NY for claiming his magic rocks could find buried Spanish treasure. Land owners would pay him and his side kicks to use the magic seer stones to locate the buried fortune. Smith was tried for fraud and convicted. He was then kicked out of his local Methodist church. The court records do not lie. Shortly thereafter he, by the use of these same stones, found and decoded a couple of supposed gold tablets. No one ever saw the tablets since they magically disappeared after he read them. Joseph Smith wrote something called "The Book Of Abraham". In it, he published a reproduction of an ancient Egyptian papyrus containing hieroglyphics. He translated the glyphs and said it was an ancient record of the life of Abraham. Too bad for smith that scholars actually learned to read this stuff. The correct interpretation has nothing to do with Abraham. It's a simple scene of the pharoah's mumification surrounded by the vessels that held his organs. Whenever LDS teachings conflict with accepted Christian doctrine, mormons will say that smith's revelation supercedes the traditional text because it is more recent. There are many, many doctrinal differences between the LDS church and the Christian church. These are fundamental defining issues like the origins of Jesus, the nature of the trinity, and the nature of salvation itself.

Sorry for the thread jack. I'm not trying to blast on mormons. I just want you to know that if you are a Methodist, Presbyterian,etc and you'd like to vote for a Christian candidate, you should pick someone other than Mitt Romney.

[chip anderson]

While I might not vote for Obama Hussin for religious and other reasons. I can't see any reason for not voting for a Morman. He's running for presidents. Presidents have a lot of duties. Leading us to Heaven or Hell (although some of them seem to be trying the later) isn't part of the job.

Chip

[rinselberg]

I can understand posters saying that they aren't going to vote for Barack Obama because they disagree with his policies or proposals or campaign themes or his record in office or whatever ... except for the "religious" angle.

I don't get it. If he's not a Christian, then who is? It's just another Internet hoax about Senator Obama being the Islamic "Manchurian Candidate". Trying to sneak in under the radar. The same kind of Internet hoax that the very same posters who indulge this idea (about Obama) would instantly reject if it were some other kind of nonsense. Anyone could have seen that Internet hoax coming.

There must be thousands of Christian Arabs in the Middle East (and a number in the U.S.) with Arabic-derived names like "Barack".

Are they not Christians?

[chip anderson]

The Manchurian canditate is "republican" from Arizona.

[KStraker]

I can understand posters saying that they aren't going to vote for Barack Obama because of his ideas or policies or record or whatever ... except for the "religious" angle. I don't get it. If he's not a Christian, then who is? It's just another Internet hoax about Senator Obama being the Islamic "Manchurian Candidate". Trying to sneak in under the radar. The same kind of Internet hoax that the very same posters who indulge this idea (about Obama) would instantly reject if it were some other kind of nonsense. Anyone could have seen that Internet hoax coming.

There must be thousands of Christian Arabs in the Middle East (and a number in the U.S.) with Arabic-derived names like "Barack".

Are they not Christians?

Of course they are. It's very unfortunate that Obama will be stigmatized by his name. It seems really silly to me.

In my local area, many people will use moral values within the context of religion, to decide on a candidate. They will lean towards a candidate that reflects their own values and background. The vast majority of them are conservative Protestants and want to vote for the same. Hopefully most of them will find out that even though the LDS church features the name of Jesus Christ, it is not a Christian church. The LDS church is not another Protestant denomination. I want to be sure that people who vote with religious criteria have the proper information to make an informed choice.

Personally I hope to vote for Obama.

[Steve Machol]

Given that Pete and I are roughly the same age, Barry Goldwater might have represented the Republican Party of our fathers. Which Republican candidate most resembles Goldwater is a discussion I would love to see here... because it sure isn't going to happen on Fox News!

If you have a chance, you should watch the HBO special: Mr. Conservative: Goldwater on Goldwater

It's a fascinating look at what mat very well may have been the last true conservative left in the Republican party. Sadly they don' make 'em like that anymore.

[Pete Hanlin]

According to some of the articles and coverage I've read on Fred Thompson, his political evolution has been heavily influenced by Barry Goldwater.

Regarding Gov. Romney, I have absolutely no problem voting for someone of the Mormon, Muslim, Jewish, Christian, or Hindu faith (add in every other faith with the possible exception of Wicca and Satanist). Although America was founded by members of the Christian faith, with respect to our government it would seem quite clear it can be led irrespective of faith.

Of all the candidates in the Democrat primary, I probably have the least reservations with Sen. Obama. Understanding that I disagree with the politics of all the Democrat potentials, but I at least have respect for Sen. Obama.

As mentioned earlier, Gov. Huckabee is the anti-thesis of a Goldwater Republican, and I do not believe anyone CAN know where Sen. McCain stands from day to day- because he sorta makes it up as he goes.

Give me a fiscal conservative with mainstream social values (not necessarily a member of the religious right, but definitely not someone prone to liberal activism)- that would be Fred Thompson.

[LandLord]

Arnold Schwartzenegger should be the US president so he can blow off the terrorists heads with a sawed off shotgun!

[chip anderson]

Steve Mahol:

Bravo! The thought of you being a Goldwater Republican is going to take weeks to assimilate! I have a book with a couple of Goldwaterisms, I will relay soon.

Anyone know he had a bassett hound, "So I can go home and see someone who looks like he had a worse day than I did."


Chip

[bhess25]

ok thats it im voting for george washington!!!

[chip anderson]

Cose u has to unastan I stays in Mississippi. But virtually 90% of the people I meet, black and white wan's Fred Thompson fo President.
So how come the polls say only a few percent suppoats Fred.

Chip

[bhess25]

Cose u has to unastan I stays in Mississippi. But virtually 90% of the people I meet, black and white wan's Fred Thompson fo President.
So how come the polls say only a few percent suppoats Fred.

Chip

cause mississippi only equates to a few percent.

[1968]

In reference to Christian conservatives(from other posts): There's only one candidate who openly represents Christians, Mike Huckabee. I will not be voting for Romney since I prefer not to have a cult member for president. Mormonism is not another denomination of Christianity.

On Huckabee: For all I know, "openly representing Christians" simply means "pandering to Christians". If he were somehow to be elected, I hope he will choose to represent ALL Americans. On Romney and the "true believers" who won't vote for him: One man's true Christian faith is another man's cult.

Sorry for the thread jack. I'm not trying to blast on mormons. I just want you to know that if you are a Methodist, Presbyterian,etc and you'd like to vote for a Christian candidate, you should pick someone other than Mitt Romney.

Why stop with that advice? Why not advise them to pick the candidate who is going to do the best job as President?

[rbaker]

If Huckabee moved in next door to me I would be somewhat nervous. On the other hand I would be happy to have Romney as a next door neighbor.

[Steve Machol]

If Huckabee moved in next door to me I would be somewhat nervous. On the other hand I would be happy to have Romney as a next door neighbor.

That's because it would mean you are able to afford living in a millionaire's neighborhood. ;)

[rbaker]

That's because it would mean you are able to afford living in a millionaire's neighborhood. ;)

No . . . It's just that I would rather have my grandchildren playing with Mitt's grandchildren than Mike's. It's got something to do with what I personally consider family values and social responsibility. It has nothing to do with religion or politics.

[rbaker]

That's because it would mean you are able to afford living in a millionaire's neighborhood. ;)

Oh . . . by the way . . . already do. On both coasts.

[KStraker]

On Huckabee: For all I know, "openly representing Christians" simply means "pandering to Christians". If he were somehow to be elected, I hope he will choose to represent ALL Americans. On Romney and the "true believers" who won't vote for him: One man's true Christian faith is another man's cult.

Why stop with that advice? Why not advise them to pick the candidate who is going to do the best job as President?

I agree 100% with the pandering sentiment. I guess that's politics. I live in SC just outside Greenville. As I stated earlier, people in this area will vote on moral grounds as defined within a Christian framework. Most do not have an education that is on par with the members of this board. They may only use that one criteria to choose who to vote for. I want to make sure that they have sufficient knowledge to make a more intelligent choice, even if it is based on a single criteria.

On cults: None of the patriarchs were ever convicted of fraud. None of them said that their word superceded the teachings of Jesus Christ because they came more recently. None of them claimed that by doing good works you can become a god person on another planet. These aren't my opinions. Google "Book of Abraham" and see what comes up. Or, go ask your pastor about the fundamental doctrinal differences between Christians and Mormons. You may be surprised. I'm not some kind of screaming Bible thumping lunatic. As I said, this is a large factor in my area and many people seem confused.

On who will be the best pres: that's easy, Barack Obama. If I'm going to tell people who to vote for: vote for Barack Obama.