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    I've just finished talking to a physicist with extensive work in reflected light. He wants a pair of night driving clear polarized glasses that will stop the windshield/dashboards reflected light. To my knowledge the industry doesn't make clear polarized lenses. Anyone know why not? He believes that another crystal besides iodine could be used to create clear polarization. Can it?

    I didn't search for previous threads that may have addressed this so if it's a redundant thread my apologies.

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    There was an excellent thread on this. It's not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    I've just finished talking to a physicist with extensive work in reflected light. He wants a pair of night driving clear polarized glasses that will stop the windshield/dashboards reflected light. To my knowledge the industry doesn't make clear polarized lenses. Anyone know why not? He believes that another crystal besides iodine could be used to create clear polarization. Can it?

    I didn't search for previous threads that may have addressed this so if it's a redundant thread my apologies.

    It's not currently possible. Maybe your physicist could circumvent optics to create one.
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    That's what I thought...

    Why not? Is iodine the only crystal that can be polarized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    Why not? Is iodine the only crystal that can be polarized?

    I imagine they could polarize other crystals but if the crystals are clear, what will they be polarizing? Nothing - and all the light will still pass through them.

    You can get some rather light colored yellow polarized lenses that might be the ticket for him.
    Does KB Co still make their Neutral gray polarized lenses? They were lightly colored for indoor use but not efficient at all as polarized filters.
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    He wants a pair of night driving clear polarized glasses that will stop the windshield/dashboards reflected light.
    Any glasses will be more harmfull to night driving than no glasses, due to reduced transmission. Especially tinted or polarized lenses, you will reduce the glare but it will also reduce the amount of light and at night this can create a hazard.
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    He said the light comes through the windshield and reflects off the dash then back off the windshield and is in a polarized state (which was news to me) when it reaches your eye. He did say he'd have to think about whether the eyeglass lens polarizing filter would need to be placed horizontal or vertical when I questioned which direction the light hitting the eye was coming from.

    Thanks for the yellow lens suggestion. I may run with that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    He said the light comes through the windshield and reflects off the dash then back off the windshield and is in a polarized state (which was news to me) when it reaches your eye. He did say he'd have to think about whether the eyeglass lens polarizing filter would need to be placed horizontal or vertical when I questioned which direction the light hitting the eye was coming from.

    Thanks for the yellow lens suggestion. I may run with that!
    Horizontal just like on every sun you'd make. Makes sense, but I would caution him about making them and if he goes for it then make them up in the yellow, or grey A. Good luck and I'd love to hear what he thinks about them after he wears them.
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    I know the real solution to his problem. He just needs to send his windshield out for a backside Crizal Alize.:D:D
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    Makes sense, but I would caution him about making them
    Harry- What's my caution? They may not work?? Any idea why clear can't be made other than nobody has or are polarized lenses for white light with clear lenses nonsensical?

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    http://www.optiboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6219

    Check out this previous thread, with a decent explanation from Mr. Meister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    He said the light comes through the windshield and reflects off the dash then back off the windshield and is in a polarized state (which was news to me) when it reaches your eye. He did say he'd have to think about whether the eyeglass lens polarizing filter would need to be placed horizontal or vertical when I questioned which direction the light hitting the eye was coming from.

    Thanks for the yellow lens suggestion. I may run with that!
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    k12311997-That is so cool. He mentioned that all dashboards should be a flat dark color!

    Thanks RT and Daryl-- Very helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    Harry- What's my caution? They may not work?? Any idea why clear can't be made other than nobody has or are polarized lenses for white light with clear lenses nonsensical?
    Their is no clear polarized film that I know of, there are phase retarders, but they are something a bit different, they will rotate the phase of polarized light and are called wave retarders (they're clear). As far as I know their is no clear polarized films, but I may be wrong. Even if their was the efficacy of the filter would be reduced and they would still not be recommended for night driving so I guess they would be nonsensical in a way. I would just warn him that the lenses might reduce glare, but might make it more difficult to distiguish objects at night.
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    Unless I'm grossly misinformed, I was under the impression that the glasses you use to view 3D IMAX movies are polarized. One lens horizontal, and one vertical. I haven't gone to one in a while, but I remember them being fairly clear. Would something like that make a difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralKnight View Post
    Unless I'm grossly misinformed, I was under the impression that the glasses you use to view 3D IMAX movies are polarized. One lens horizontal, and one vertical. I haven't gone to one in a while, but I remember them being fairly clear. Would something like that make a difference?
    Just saw Beowulf in IMAX 3D (super way cool) The lenses are a light grey about a 50% nothing you'd want to drive at night in.

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