In this thread you can state an unpopular opinion you have for the industry. I will start us off.
The Varilux Ellipse is one the best lenses on the market and does a great job even at 14mm.
In this thread you can state an unpopular opinion you have for the industry. I will start us off.
The Varilux Ellipse is one the best lenses on the market and does a great job even at 14mm.
I'll add to yours,
Varilux, ellipse and all other progressives are not worth the 1/5 the cost. I take people out of "high end progressives" and fit them with generic 1/5 the cost progressives and see nothing but smiles on thier faces at dispense.
1 non-adapt refit back into varlux in 7 years.
I love polycarbonate and fit almost all my patients with the material.
Your poor patients, at least give the hyperopes a break or throw in some free AR :hammer:
I should have started this post.
Chip:cheers:
Poly is the bomb. Essilor = Vistakon = Viva = Davis. Polished edges are distracting. Adults should play video games. Ultima Online is better than WoW. 1.60 is a waste of money and trivex is overpriced. Luxottica will plateau.
Originally Posted by Jo
[insert zealous reply here]. Crizal(s), Zeiss, and SuperHiVision are all about the same for us.
AR sucks. It just comes off the lenses when I try to clean them.
POLY and no AR is the way to go.
Your AR comes off the lenses when you clean it? That should never, ever happen.
You're kidding right?
My opinion: Essilor Smallfit is the exact same lens as Ellipse. And they are very, VERY good (even though it pains me to say that about an Essilor product)
A Fact (which will lead to all kinds of opinions and conjecture): I ordered an Essilor Accolade Freedom and I received with the lenses a "Certificate of Authenticity" for my "Physio 360" lenses. They came from the Essilor Lab in Dallas that produces the P360, and the Essilor Accolade for Wal-Mart Optical.
My opinion (based on a statistical sample): 0.2% of patients will be bothered enough by the chroma caused by poly to complain. 0.02% of patients will want to change back to CR-39 when you explain that poly caused it.
Polycarbonate has become our "higher" index lens of choice with great results. A/R is over rated, I have never seen a night and day difference between the two. Can get just as good results with a progresive that costs half the price of a premium. High index and drill mounts are a bad combo no matter what lens companies claim. Trivex is over priced.
Always keep in mind that *satisfied* is subject to degree, and does not equate to excellence. Using this logic, I would dispense any number of off-brand ARs, and cleints would be just as happy when they are first dispensed....until They tried Carat Advantage or Alize Clear Gard.
*Always* try to offer the best...let the client decide.
MHO...
Barry
They are not "satisfied" they see a noticable improvement based on thier lifestyle needs.
I am joking. I stronly believe that almost everyone should have AR'd lenses and I do strongly feel that there is a place for poly. Just as there is a place for CR, Trivex, 1.67, 1.70 and so on and so forth. I just get sick of all the poly bashing that goes on in the industry.
I like small frame I hope they stay around until I retire.
Polycarbonate has cannabilized many office's material selection, reducing profitabiliy and creating a wedge between patients and thinner, flatter lenses.
Adam
One man's cannibilization is another mans 'increasing market share due to a superior product'
One man's wedge is another man's 'filling a niche'
And what brand do you use for a "generic" short corridor 1.67? I sell the Ellipse because I wear one at 14 high. I won't sell another short corridor until I can try it myself, so just curious. We are also selling the Physio like crazy and we make a very good profit on it. No remakes yet in a year.
I can't wear poly, not everyone can. Would you fit a high minus in a poly instead of a hi-index?
What the heck are you cleaning them with? In two years I don't even have a scratch on my Crizal lenses. Not saying they are the best, but they are a premium product and why would you sell anything else?
I think the new 1.6 (the one Seiko and Sola were using and now Essilor) is the best material on the market. It may not be as impact resistant as poly, but most people are not in situations where they need that. It is wonderful to groove, does not chip, the AR adheres well to it, good scratch resistance, thin, has UV protection, and is cheap.
I like to use it for all of my single vision stock stuff over -2.00 (just because it is not available in Alize stock under -2.00).
A high Minus is the best candidate for poly.
need a little help. will be in nyc on fri. flying in to laguardia. what is the normal taxi fare to mid-town?
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