Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 32

Thread: Removing PAL markings

  1. #1
    OptiBoard Novice
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Mansfield, Texas
    Occupation
    Other Optical Manufacturer or Vendor
    Posts
    5

    Removing PAL markings

    AO discontinued AO ink remover, seems to be the most effective in removing markings for AR. Tried others, not as good. Need help or AO salesman contact me to buy what's left, if there is any.

  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Only City in the World built over a Volcano
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    12,996

    Markings

    Use alchohol and elbow grease. If you don't want to use the grease, use acetone except on polycarbonate.

    Mosten kleenex and rub.



    chip

  3. #3
    Bad address email on file Corey Nicholls's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Canberra, ACT, Australia
    Posts
    196

    Exclamation

    With the coatings available today on poly, acetone is OK as long as you are very carefull. This also goes for alcohol. Don't use either on four screw rimless mounts as the solvent will move into the holes and destroy the lens from the inside out! (Like in the movie Alien).

    Corey

  4. #4
    sub specie aeternitatis Pete Hanlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Hickory Creek, TX
    Occupation
    Lens Manufacturer
    Posts
    4,964
    Beyond removing the visible markings on PALs (for which acetone works great), you can usually remove the invisible markings that are left behind (the ones that show up when you steam up the lens) by soaking them in UV solution. We have a few patients who have been annoyed by those markings (then again, we have some who have been annoyed by the laser etchings on the lens, geesh!).

    Of course, certain lenses have a nasty habit of losing their markings when you take the surface saver tape off them after surfacing... anyone have any tricks for keeping the markings on the lens? :)

    Pete

  5. #5
    RETIRED JRS's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Vancouver, WA
    Occupation
    Other Optical Manufacturer or Vendor
    Posts
    862
    Pete,
    There is a little product available called a "Kling-on" that you apply over the markings before using the surface saver tape. Comes in 2 sizes - I would suggest using the "Kling-on Junior" which is a bit smaller. Many labs use these - those that are still tapeing. It uses no adhesive so the markings are only protected from the tape, not pulled off.

  6. #6
    OptiBoard Professional
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Posts
    153
    I thought the Romulans took care of the Kling-on's. Or was that the Borg. Whoops had one of those flash backs. Those sixties
    were really hard on flash backs. Got to go another flash back
    or was that camera backwards?

  7. #7
    Master OptiBoarder Joann Raytar's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    USA
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    4,948
    JRS:

    Thank you!!!! I was trying to think of the name of those guys and the little blue sticky things, I think Slip-Stop guards, in another post.

    In a pinch grease pencil also works well. Just sharpen the grease pencil with a box knife or eyeliner/browliner sharpener if you have one and trace over the manufacturers marks.

  8. #8
    That Boy Ain't Right Blake's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Mobile, AL, USA
    Occupation
    Optical Laboratory Technician
    Posts
    543
    I've found that soaking PAL's in hot water for about 10 seconds does the trick. With a squirt of alcohol and a light rub, the markings come right off!


    Blake

  9. #9
    Sawptician PAkev's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    Lake Winola, Pennsylvania
    Occupation
    Other Eyecare-Related Field
    Posts
    906
    Most hardware stores sell a product called "GOOF OFF." We've been using it on everything but AR coated lenses for several years with great results.

    Kevin

  10. #10
    Master OptiBoarder Alan W's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Seabrook, TX.
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    923

    pal marks

    hot neutralizer on a towel

    cleen quick if sprayed on a towel and rubbed only on the surface.
    It will also destroy poly if it gets under the coating so be careful.

    90% alcohol works, too.

  11. #11
    OptiBoard Apprentice
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    New Orleans, LA, USA
    Occupation
    Other Optical Manufacturer or Vendor
    Posts
    33
    Alcohol works best and is probably the safest Vs Acetone, from a health stand point, when buying from one of the Marts or Drug stores buy the 95%+. I know you can find the 99.5% at Home Depot and Lowes. It makes all the difference.

  12. #12
    Bad address email on file OptiBoard Gold Supporter Sean's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    NC & MA
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    2,798
    Alchohol work's great..........so does acetone. Just be carefull on the polycarbs w/acetone.

  13. #13
    OptiBoard Novice
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    oklahoma city
    Occupation
    Optical Laboratory Technician
    Posts
    8
    if you can get ahold of the static cling stickers that are supposed to on finished pairs of glasses the lens mnfg. make, and put one on before surface saver tape...problem solved
    i have some in my lab from essilor
    our corporate heads are so retarded they told me to put static cling stickers on anti-statc lenses.

    this is why i have not purchaced stock.

  14. #14
    OptiBoard Apprentice
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Toronto
    Occupation
    Optometrist
    Posts
    13
    I have been using for 20 years a product that is non-acetone and works great. In fact there are now 2 products available in the Toronto area. I found the problem with Acetone to be not on the lenses but on the frame. Some plastic frames and some of the finishes on metal frames (and not always the cheap ones) would react to the acetone and the finish was ruined. Strong rubbing alcohol would work - with a lot of effort. But the specific products made for the optical industry with no acetone work fantastic. If you need the contact in Ontario Canada send me a reply and I will look it up at the office.

  15. #15
    Rising Star
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Scotland
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    69
    Hilco do products called "solves it" and "solves it for poly" as you would expect the second it safe for polycarbonate. It's what we use and it takes the marking of all of the brands we sell. Essilor marking take a bit longer though, so if its not polycarb i use acetone.
    It's very handy because it comes in a pen applicator, so no need to worry about spillage.

  16. #16
    Manuf. Lens Surface Treatments
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    in Naples FL for the Winter months
    Occupation
    Other Optical Manufacturer or Vendor
    Posts
    23,240
    Get hold of some "Markaway", no rubbing, dissolves markings PALs in a breeze without acetone and you can use it on Poly without damage.
    In Toronto you can get it from McCray, Trident and Kleargo or direct from OMS



    Funny...............9 year old thread

  17. #17
    OptiBoard Novice
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Cardiff, CA
    Occupation
    Other Eyecare-Related Field
    Posts
    4
    I know this is an old thread but I looked this topic up because I personally experienced the issue of lens markings ghosting through after a period of time! I have been wearing progressive sunglasses with a flash mirror coating and after a year all the progressive lens markings became visible over a period of about a month! I can't remember which lab made them for me but Opticote is working on removing the marks and recoating the lenses for me. I would imagine a consumer that had paid retail for these (about $500 estimated) would have been very annoyed! Is this a common problem and what is the best way to avoid it?

  18. #18
    Manuf. Lens Surface Treatments
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    in Naples FL for the Winter months
    Occupation
    Other Optical Manufacturer or Vendor
    Posts
    23,240
    Use a proper ink remover made for that purpose that does not harm lens material nor coatings. There are several different ones available on the market.

    They will properly dissolve the markings and you can wash off the residues so that you will not start to see them again because they were not properly rubbed off.

  19. #19
    Master OptiBoarder
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Austin
    Occupation
    Optical Retail
    Posts
    585
    This is like removing the bed mattress tag. You better watch out, because Fletch is going to come after you!

  20. #20
    Master OptiBoarder
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Seattle WA
    Occupation
    Optical Wholesale Lab (other positions)
    Posts
    3,137
    I prefer a bench grinder at high speed. Lets here it for the "Oldest Thread Painfully Ressurected on Optiboard" this year award?

  21. #21
    Master OptiBoarder
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    north of 49
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    3,002
    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick777 View Post
    I prefer a bench grinder at high speed. Lets here it for the "Oldest Thread Painfully Ressurected on Optiboard" this year award?
    "Here, here,..............I second the emotion!
    Eyes wide open

  22. #22
    Master OptiBoarder
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Austin
    Occupation
    Optical Retail
    Posts
    585
    hey, at least he used the "search" function

  23. #23
    Rising Star Huffam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Homer, AK
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    57
    we use "ink-b-gone" from dynamic labs, it works perfectly for us. minimal rubbing and the ink is gone!

  24. #24
    OptiBoard Apprentice OptiBoard Silver Supporter
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Jackson, Mississippi, United States
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    30
    Lemon extract!
    Trish Hammons ABOC

  25. #25
    Rising Star
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Charleston S.C.
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    58
    acetone free nail polish remover....It costs like $1.50 a bottle

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. TIPS ON DISPENSING
    By harry a saake in forum General Optics and Eyecare Discussion Forum
    Replies: 1201
    Last Post: 04-11-2024, 06:51 PM
  2. PAL ink markings
    By Mark Rice in forum General Optics and Eyecare Discussion Forum
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 08-22-2009, 08:09 PM
  3. SEIKO Expands Range of Proceed II SHORT PAL
    By Newsroom in forum Optical Industry News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-19-2003, 10:10 PM
  4. PAL Non Adapts?
    By PAkev in forum General Optics and Eyecare Discussion Forum
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 07-31-2002, 10:34 AM
  5. PAL markings???
    By mullo in forum General Optics and Eyecare Discussion Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 06-09-2001, 05:22 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •