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    Quote Originally Posted by Caddy View Post
    I have a close friend who went to 2 seperate OD's because of a "shadowy darkness in one eye." He was told his retina's were fine. 2 weeks later, he went to an ophthalmologist and was told his "retina has been detached now for a couple of weeks, and vision is 85% lost." The MD said, "don't blame the OD, blame the government. Optometrists are not doctors."
    Interesting.

    I've seen 5 patients the last 6 months who had recently seen ophthalmologists- 2 had missed cases of obvious glaucoma, one case of a missed retinal detachment, one case of missed uveitis and one case of a misdiagnosed HSV keratitis.

    Optometrists may not be 'physicians' but they are definitely doctors.:bbg:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excalibur View Post
    Interesting.

    I've seen 5 patients the last 6 months who had recently seen ophthalmologists- 2 had missed cases of obvious glaucoma, one case of a missed retinal detachment, one case of missed uveitis and one case of a misdiagnosed HSV keratitis.

    Optometrists may not be 'physicians' but they are definitely doctors.:bbg:
    Personally, I always try to give the other doctor the benefit of the doubt rather than claim they missed something. While I was going through school I was spending time in an OMD's office. He had a referral sent in requesting a consult on monocularly reduced visual acuity. The guy walked into the room and said "oh yeah, I forgot to tell the other guy I had a macular hole several years ago." It was one of those partial thickness holes that eventually settle back down leaving almost no visible signs. Absolutely not the other doc's fault.

    I sure don't like it when other professionals criticize my skills. And of course, no matter how good you are, you're going to miss something sometime.

    Getting back to the original topic:

    Great Glasses boss to fight giant fine
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    The sadest thing about Bergez' case is that he has been allowed to make a mockery of our legal system, not to mention the tax system with all the ridiculous write off's. The CRA will hopefully reel him in by next year, leaving him no $$$ to pay the contempt fine.:cheers: Perhaps someone should leak something to the CRA.......hint hint ;)
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    What about his franchisees? Are they going to walk away too? Are they going to sue Bergez for selling them a franchise that was operating illegally?

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    If someone is a smooth talker, as Bergez is, or thinks he is, People can be suckered into anything. Remember how many people think optical is like a shoe store? No one thinks selling glasses would be regulated under the Health Professions Act. Would shoes?
    BTW, before regulation in B.C, it was fairly common to sell optical franchises to people off the street. Saw dozens of them go broke, and never saw one make it.

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    So you have not heard any updates eh? Tried searching internet today but found nothing. You would think the College would be on top of this and update us. As we all know it is business as usual for Great Glasses.... apparently INCLUDING the eye exams. So what the hell is going on....
    :cheers: It's always noon somewhere!

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    College of Opticians obtains court order against Great Glasses Franchisees

    On December 27, 2006, the Superior Court of Justice of Ontario handed down a judgment in the Application brought by the College against the Great Glasses franchisees. The Court dismissed a motion brought by the Great Glasses franchisees to convert the Application into an Action (a longer process involving a trial). The Court also granted an interim injunction to require the Great Glasses franchisees (including their employees, agents, independent contractors, and other persons carrying on business in association with them or on their behalf), to comply with the RHPA, the Code and the Regulations. The Court also made other orders relating to the timetable for future steps to be taken in the Application, and ordered the Great Glasses franchisees to pay the costs of the College for the motion to convert and the motion for interim relief.

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    Also, for a different point of view on all of this, here is a link to an article from a legal magazine.

    http://www.lawtimesnews.com/index.ph...=954&Itemid=82

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    Confused

    Gary, the sucess of the recent court actions decidedly indicates that there is no failure "from the top down." Au contraire, mon frere, we have won a great victory. The courts have spoken: ophthalmic dispensing is a controlled act, under health legislation. Courts do not consider breaching opticians regulation to be on par with mass murder. It is VERY difficult to enforce those regs at times, and legal action in low priority issues is very slow. You just have to be patient. Kudos to the College of Opticians of Ontario for bringing a long complex regulatory issue to a successfull conclusion. They must be doing their jobs. Now if only they could function more as automatons and less as people who are imperfect, but work their a--es off to make calling yourself an optician something that still has a little respect in the eyes of the public.
    This case as been watched closely by many people accross the country. I'm still not sure how a huge victory for opticians and optometrists can be called a "failure from the top down."

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    A bunch of very nervous people?;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    Nervous people would not and could not have gone this far .

    If you believe this is a victory , then would you not expect to see signs of compliance ?
    I would not expect to see complience in any way from an S.O.B. such as Mr. Bergez. I believe he will push the envelope to the absolute limit.

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    Are you seing any signs of compliance in your area ?
    Well... their web site at http://greatglasses.ca/ still advertises free eye tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excalibur View Post
    Well... their web site at http://greatglasses.ca/ still advertises free eye tests.
    Definately a violation of either the court order, or COO regulations which require the advertisment of a free eye exam to specifly that it's really a rebate.:finger:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excalibur View Post
    Well... their web site at http://greatglasses.ca/ still advertises free eye tests.
    I don't have a Great Glasses in my area. My store is not in Oakville so I cannot comment on signs of complience except of the gut feeling that I have having followed this case for some time.

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