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    LifeRx Delaminating?

    I personally don't like the LifeRx product - I prefer the Trivex lens for a photochromic D-28 alternative to CR39, but my predicessor sold plenty of the LifeRx lenses. I've now had my third patient in two weeks come in with delaminating lenses - I had no clue the LifeRx lenses were laminated in the first place. Anyone else have this problem?

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    I've never seen it. You may want to contact Vision-ese.

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    I have had zero problems also. I do prefer the trivex version. I would contact Vision-Ease!

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    Had it in one job. It was a rimless and the delamination was nasal where the forehead/bridge hit the sweaty face. I think perspiration got in the groove and made it to the laminate.

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    Yep, not only delamination, but pretty severe yellowing after about 6 mos to a year of use in the sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithbenjamin View Post
    Yep, not only delamination, but pretty severe yellowing after about 6 mos to a year of use in the sun.

    -Keith
    Yeah, these are pretty yellow as well. When I called the lab for a remake under Vision-Ease's warranty they told me this pair was one of the very first they had run (about a year ago). Looking at them, they look similar to the old Transitions III after two years of constant UV exposure - very yellow.

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    Confused Why prefer transitions?

    Fezz and Audyoda - you say you prefer Trivex. Why? I find it darker in the clear state. Haven't had any problems with LifeRx. Customers like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithbenjamin View Post
    Yep, not only delamination, but pretty severe yellowing after about 6 mos to a year of use in the sun.

    -Keith
    After finding out some more information, I have to clarify my comment. It seems the yellowing product I saw wasn't a customer return, but was left on someone's roof for a few weeks as a "test."

    So, our lab has not directly experienced any problems with yellowing. But we have had a small percentage returned for problems with delamination.

    -Keith
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithbenjamin View Post
    After finding out some more information, I have to clarify my comment. It seems the yellowing product I saw wasn't a customer return, but was left on someone's roof for a few weeks as a "test."

    So, our lab has not directly experienced any problems with yellowing. But we have had a small percentage returned for problems with delamination.

    -Keith
    Maybe my patients are doing the same thing?? :bbg:

    I've seen two LifeRx come back that are very yellow - I have one on my desk right now. From the looks of it I'm thinking the yellowing is from the UV cured glue that's used in the lamination process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visionaire View Post
    Fezz and Audyoda - you say you prefer Trivex. Why? I find it darker in the clear state. Haven't had any problems with LifeRx. Customers like it.
    Darker? I have a pair of D28 trivex transitions V sitting in front of me and they register at 93.5% transmission in their unactivated state - that's 6.5% blockage. Barely noticeable.

    Anyway, I prefer a product that doesn't delaminate :D I also prefer a product that has does not issues with any chemical exposure. The darkest I've been able to get any LifeRx lens is just over 60% - I can get trivex with transV down to 78% consistantly. It's an overall better product for my patients at roughly the same cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visionaire View Post
    Fezz and Audyoda - you say you prefer Trivex. Why? I find it darker in the clear state. Haven't had any problems with LifeRx. Customers like it.

    I really like Trivex/Phoenix material. I have been using less and less polycarbonate. Trivex works better for me in many applications. I have yet to get a drilled rimless back with cracks or chips at the mounting holes when using trivex. I know there are chemicals to eliminate the poly problems(Drill Seal-OMS), but I still prefer trivex. This delamination situation also steers me towards trivex.

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    Life rx

    Just wondering - has anyone had delaminating issues in 2007 with these lenses - ?

    we had 20 or so last year- and when i was asked to send them back - i was informed by VE - that they had some glueing issues with them -

    how it was explained to me - is that they use a glue compound - and for some reason a very large batch - with multipul lot numbers - where recalled - and that was the explanantion i was given -

    I don't think the product is all that bad - and most pts like it -
    i will say - i did get a bad taste for them - because of this problem - and even now - i will not use them in semirimless - just because i don't want to increase the poss. issues with it coming apart - even though i am told i don't have to be concerned with that any longer that this issue is corrected

    but i stil stick with the poly trans. v- if i can

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    As long as I can get a trans V in a D28 and now a D7x28 in trivex, that's what I stick with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiyoda View Post
    As long as I can get a trans V in a D28 and now a D7x28 in trivex, that's what I stick with.

    Now we need 7X28 Trivex Trans V. Needed one of those today. Sigh.:(
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonLensmanWV View Post
    Now we need 7X28 Trivex Trans V. Needed one of those today. Sigh.:(
    There is one - Younger released it about a month ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiyoda View Post
    There is one - Younger released it about a month ago.

    X-cel has it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
    X-cel has it too.
    Yeah, but I like Dick P. from Younger - he's a way cool rep so I gotta give his company props when I can. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiyoda View Post
    Yeah, but I like Dick P. from Younger - he's a way cool rep so I gotta give his company props when I can. :D
    Same for me with X-cel :D

    :cheers:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiyoda View Post
    There is one - Younger released it about a month ago.
    Daggone! Missed that one. I did not see it on X-Cel's site though.
    Good thing I haven't ordered them yet. I'll call her today!
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    We have had delaminating issues too, the company is aware but I am not sure what they are doing about it.....
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    How did this lens win a OLA Award of Excellence? Of course I've always wondered what the OLA is smokin' when they hand out those awards.

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    X-Cel does have the 7 x 28 Transitions Trivex on the shelves ready for shipment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brando View Post
    X-Cel does have the 7 x 28 Transitions Trivex on the shelves ready for shipment!

    I thought you did. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
    I thought you did. :D
    :D

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