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    anti.fatigue lenses

    are they anygood? How do they differ from a regular ophthalmic lens
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellivron55 View Post
    are they anygood? How do they differ from a regular ophthalmic lens
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    I have a few pair myself. Of course I was very skeptical at first. What happens is there is a .6 diopter added (in +) or subtracted (in -) from the bottom of the lens.

    However, I do notice a lot. When I work a 10 or 12 or 14 hour day I do notice that my eyes really are not sore. But with every other lens I have had my eyes were very tired after that length.

    The major problem is it is not something really obvious to the client. I mean we can see transitions change, we notice the benefits of AR, but it is hard to show the client the benefits of this lens.

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    Huh?

    Am I correct in interpreting your post, are you over plussing .6 diopters at near only? Chris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FVCCHRIS View Post
    Am I correct in interpreting your post, are you over plussing .6 diopters at near only? Chris.

    Yes, it is a single vision lens. So if you have someone who is a +4.00, the lens will have an added .6 at the bottom of the lens. So it will be +4.60.

    If it is a -4.00, then you will take away .6. So it will be -3.40.

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    any special fitting requirements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellivron55 View Post
    any special fitting requirements?
    OC height, that is all

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life View Post
    OC height, that is all
    Are you sure? I thought it was cut on datum, with a minimum B of 26mm.
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    that is what I was told. Of course, remember, this is Essilor who does invents lots and has little information about all of it. However, I doubt a mm or two difference on this lens matters.

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    A progressive for 30 somethings?

    So this is a SV lens with a 0.6 add? Sounds like a PAL for a 37 year old. Very progressive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcE View Post
    So this is a SV lens with a 0.6 add? Sounds like a PAL for a 37 year old. Very progressive!
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    yep, but no channel.

    I just wanted to add (Essilor did not say this, I am) that I think this lens is only beneficial to those who read or are on the computer a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life View Post
    yep, but no channel.

    I just wanted to add (Essilor did not say this, I am) that I think this lens is only beneficial to those who read or are on the computer a lot.
    I agree, I find it a little distracting when I am looking around in the distance.
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    Prdon my asking, but how could it be a single vision lens if it has two different prescriptions on it?

    How can a lens be labeled an "anti-fatigue lens"? What if it is given to a pre-presbyopic exophore or someone with convergence insufficiency? Then would it be an "anti-anti fatigue lens"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fjpod View Post
    Prdon my asking, but how could it be a single vision lens if it has two different prescriptions on it?

    How can a lens be labeled an "anti-fatigue lens"? What if it is given to a pre-presbyopic exophore or someone with convergence insufficiency? Then would it be an "anti-anti fatigue lens"?
    I doubt Essilor will start marketing it as a "Fatigue lens":bbg:

    My understanding of this lens is it is very similar to a blended round seg with a low power. For those wearing it, do you notice the transition point or is it smooth?

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    It's pretty smooth and undetectable when working on the computer ofr reading, but tint your head back and look in the distance and it's quite easy to notice the transition.
    "It's not impossible. I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ory View Post
    I doubt Essilor will start marketing it as a "Fatigue lens":bbg:

    My understanding of this lens is it is very similar to a blended round seg with a low power. For those wearing it, do you notice the transition point or is it smooth?

    I do not even notice it. Unless, like Jedi says, if I tilt my head back. Especially looking at worlds far away.

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    Where to find?

    Since this is a PAL or blended seg, it has to be generated, right? My labs don't know anything about it.
    Is it available in the US?
    What is the fitting height recommendation? or is it fit like a round?
    What is the cost relative to a SV? FT? computer lens? (just answer more, less or same)
    And finally, what materials?

    I want a pair for myself since I won't admit that I need help reading.

    Thanks. I love one-upping the lab guys.

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    Redhot Jumper Bs..........................

    Quote Originally Posted by fjpod View Post
    Prdon my asking, but how could it be a single vision lens if it has two different prescriptions on it?

    How can a lens be labeled an "anti-fatigue lens"? What if it is given to a pre-presbyopic exophore or someone with convergence insufficiency? Then would it be an "anti-anti fatigue lens"?
    Lookks like another rumor spreading to create interest in another variation of the same thing all over again.
    Corporate rumorsbefore brainwashing starts

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    Essilor UK Anti-Fatigue Lenses ...

    product page
    http://www.essilor.co.uk/lensinfo/si...tifatigue.html

    view PDF-format product brochure
    http://www.essilor.co.uk/lensinfo/pdfs/Anti-Fatigue.pdf


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    Thanks Rinselberg for the links. It really seems like a progressive with a low add in disguise. How can they call it a single vision lens?

    I could see where the lens can benefit some people. Actually, optometrists have been preaching for a century that low adds can help people with near work, children included.

    But I can see the advertising coming. Building a niche market..."Oh I want those lenses that relieve your eyestrain compared to regular lenses."

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    Not suitable for exophore

    According to the essilor.co.uk website provided by Rinsel, the anti-fatigue lens is not suitable for an exophore or persons under 16 years of age.

    I found my answers. Not available in US yet, but planned later this year (it's already pretty late in the year). Materials will be Orma (CR-39), poly, and 1.67. CR and 1.67 are available now in Europe. Range in Europe is +6.00 to -10.00. You fit it like a progressive, however the fitting can be done on the pupil to 2mm below.

    If the distance has little distortion, I would like a pair for computer use.

    Pete, do you have anything to add?

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    I would not use the term progressive, because it does not have a channel. You may want to say multi-focal. The distance does not have any distortion that I notice (compared to other 1.67 single vision lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life View Post
    OC height, that is all
    I read fitted at the pupil ht.

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    I wass just working on the information on this lens and this is on the Luzerne web site

    Available in clear CR39, polycarbonate and 1.67 materials.
    When ordering, please supply the distance Rx, monocular distance PD’s and fitting height dotted to the center of the pupil
    Recommended minimum fitting height is 13mm.
    Minimum B measurement of selected frame is 23mm.
    Systematically available with EVC, Crizal, Crizal Alize and Avance with Scotchguard.

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    Shamir has a digital design called the Relax that is also an anti-fatigue single vision lens. We also have our own in house digital anti-fatigue single vision. They are both available in a wide variety of materials, not just clear. They are both eligible for crizal as well.

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    I'm VERY Skeptical of these lenses. Even More so for anyone under the age of 30. All it's going to do is kill their accommodation sooner and even possible require Prism later on as well because of the lens design having a Small, but yet still an amount of prism to draw the eyes inward.

    There are MANY HUGE debates out there about these lenses epically for younger kids and teenagers.

    My Shamir Rep is ABOM and a former Optical Teacher at a large School and even he is skeptical about the lens and the possible problems it may cause later on.

    And YES it is considered a SV Lens even though it has an addition power to the lens. Because the reading power doesn't go over 0.7 it's considered to still be in the single vision range.
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