I was just wondering, does your topic for your ABOM paper have to be preapproved? I checked the ABO/NCLE web site and it did not say. Thanks for the reply.
I was just wondering, does your topic for your ABOM paper have to be preapproved? I checked the ABO/NCLE web site and it did not say. Thanks for the reply.
Paul:cheers:
I don't remember getting mine preapproved, but you might give the ABO a call to find out for certain.
Darryl J. Meister, ABOM
They are very good about returning emails within a few days of submitting. Cara I believe is the one you'll need to ask for. Good luck! I start working on my topic as soon as I finish my Optical Management Degree (Dec '06).
William Walker
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I had to get mine approved way back in 1993. It took the board over a year to approve my topic...mainly because it didn't fully meet their requirements for having a bibliography mostly grounded in ophthalmic references.
My paper tried to show (graphically!) how the precepts of "fuzzy logic" could be applied to the total eyewear-patient interaction, in order to predict a whether a person would be "satisfied" with their eyewear, or not.
Today, my constant use of the term "sweet spot" to describe how satisfied a person is with their eyewear is directly related to this paper
Barry Santini, ABOM
BTW, I purchased, at that time, every ABOM paper the ABO had, to see what had been done. Still have them....somewhere!
Barry,
I would love a copy of these papers if you can find them. I did not know that they sold them.
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Barry,
I second Harry's request. I have reviewed a few of them on-line, but, was unaware that they had more and for sale yet.
I am preparing to take the ABO Advanced test in the spring and upon passing ;^) , I will be working on the Masters paper.
Fezz
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I'll try to find them
Barry
FYI: After reading Barry's post, I phoned ABO/NCLE and they said they could give me a price for the papers next week, after Mike returned. I'll post the amount when I get the answer. Harry, if I get a copy I'll scan them in and shoot you a copy via e-mail.
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Thanks Paul. If you let me know the price I will split it with you.Originally Posted by ziggy
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How about a three way split? Unless of course the copyright laws frown on that ;^)
I would be interested in them. Let me know
Fezz
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It's like getting teeth pulled dealing with those people, but I think I might finally be getting a response today from the ABO.
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The verdict is in $5.00 a piece and their are supposedly hundreds of them. I have them sending me a list of papers and I asked if they would give some sort of break if I was to purchase in bulk but didn't get a response. I am a little disappointed that they are selling them individually, I was hoping for a compilation of papers.
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Harry,
If you could keep me posted as to what is available, I would be interested as stated earlier!
Thanks,
Fezz
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I will scan the list and send it to you once I receive it. Also I am still thinking of going at them with some sort of bulk purchase to see if I can get a deal so if you end up wanting some of the papers maybe we can pool our resources and get a better deal.
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Sounds good Harry. Keep me posted. Thanks for doing the leg work.
Fezz
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HARRY, before you do anything let me know what the total cost is. If these papers are to "add to the body of opticianry" then they must be available to every one. This sounds like a job for ATO. PM or call me and I'll let you know what I got in mind.
Paul:cheers:
My count puts it at 126 papers on the list they quoted me $5.00 a paperOriginally Posted by ABO
Make me broke equation = 5.00 * 126
Make me broke = 630.00
Again I have thought of asking for some sort of bulk pricing as well as pooling moneys together to purchase the papers as a lot. Anyone interested please post and lets get it started, if anyone knows me with or without others involved I will get all the papers. It will be easier with help of course.
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Harry,
Count me in. But, lets hope a "bulk" discount can be worked out!!! Any "legaL" issues come up for copying?
Fezz(aka. Legal Eagle ;^) )
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This is obviously not a complete list. Mine isn't there as are a number of others. I even got the Eric Muth award with mine.
Diane
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Diane you are absolutely right, this is by no means a complete list. The lady in charge of putting the whole thing together said she is going to be working on upgrading it and i wouls assume by the date at the bottom of the paper that tis list is from 09/18/00.
I don't see anywhere in the masters handbook where they inform you of their keeping the papers for sale, or even a transfer of copywright?
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See if they will send them on a CD and save printing/shipping, costs and you will have them where you can reference them easily.
Chip
I did mine on a typewriter with hand-drawn illustrations, so they probably don't have an electronic version of it, unless they scanned it.
Darryl J. Meister, ABOM
I think it's a money thing, I am going to call today and see what I can work out with them.Originally Posted by Chip Anderson
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I also typed mine, with hand-written illustrations.
!
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Laurie
Yeah. Wow, that was pain in the butt. Of course, when I wrote this thing back when I was 20, most computer systems didn't have drawing tools or decent desktop publishing programs.
Darryl J. Meister, ABOM
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