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    Another one bites the dust

    Another major news hack get exactly what he deserves for bashing US Troops.

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050212/D886M8800.html






    Never again will the liberal media be able to brainwash the public.

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    Now we just have to live with the republican media brainwashing the public ;)

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    Let me get this straight...

    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life
    Now we just have to live with the republican media brainwashing the public ;)
    You support false allegations by news chiefs against our troops while they are in the field?

    Just Checking,

    Rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by rep
    You support false allegations by news chiefs against our troops while they are in the field?

    Just Checking,

    Rep
    I do not support false allegations against anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by rep
    You support false allegations by news chiefs against our troops while they are in the field?

    Just Checking,

    Rep
    Can you say "Jeff Gannon"? Goes both ways sir.
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    Yes it does cut both ways.....

    Liberal bloggers disclose the poor qualifications of a low level white house reporter for asking loaded questions at news conferences resulting in his resignation......

    while;

    Conservative bloggers disclose the repeated false statements of the head of CNN News regarding the US military resulting in his resignation........


    Not exactly what I would call the same, but if it makes you feel better, great!

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    Is anyone willing to cut this guy some slack?

    I heard yesterday that the original remarks were made in an "off the record" session.....even though it is common knowledge that rarely happens. I quote from the article referenced above.


    "
    He quickly backed off the remarks, explaining that he meant to distinguish between journalists killed because they were in the wrong place when a bomb fell, for example, and those killed because they were shot at by American forces who mistook them for the enemy.

    "I never meant to imply U.S. forces acted with ill intent when U.S. forces accidentally killed journalists, and I apologize to anyone who thought I said or believed otherwise," Jordan said in a memo to fellow staff members at CNN"

    If you are willing to accept his original remarks....why aren't you willing to accept his explanation and apology? The problem here seems to be one way thinking.....which has very little to do with conservatism or liberalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rep
    Liberal bloggers disclose the poor qualifications of a low level white house reporter for asking loaded questions at news conferences resulting in his resignation......

    while;

    Conservative bloggers disclose the repeated false statements of the head of CNN News regarding the US military resulting in his resignation........


    Not exactly what I would call the same, but if it makes you feel better, great!

    Rep
    Poor qualifications? Try NO JOURNALISM at all and a MALE PROSTITUTE at that! Allowed to field questions to the most powerful person in the world?

    Yeah...It does make me feel alot better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rep
    Liberal bloggers disclose the poor qualifications of a low level white house reporter for asking loaded questions at news conferences resulting in his resignation......

    Rep
    How about...

    The Bush administration purposely misleading the American public by planting a shill. Sounds Clintonian to me.
    ...Just ask me...

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    Put up or shut up..................

    Here are my links showing Gannon has some ( granted weak) credentials from a "liberal blog" saying he resigned from Talon News and also had other right wing news affiliations.

    Gannon was linked to gay websites but not one bit of material shows him to be a male prostitute. Besides aren't you the one defending his right to "self expression".

    I guess that is reserved only for "liberal" news reporters.

    http://mediamatters.org/static/mirror/gannonbio.html

    Please show your links supporting your statement that he is a male prostitute.

    Otherwise your have jumped to conclusions again.

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    Nope No Slack for this guy.......................

    Quote Originally Posted by hcjilson
    I heard yesterday that the original remarks were made in an "off the record" session.....even though it is common knowledge that rarely happens.
    If this was his first time SURE but it isn't:

    Here is a link showing some more of his activities:

    http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

    EASON JORDAN'S SLIMY TRAIL

    You have no doubt heard about CNN's canning/resignation (call it what you will) of news head Eason Jordan. Jordan is the one who made some not-so-nice remarks about American troops while in Switzerland a few weeks ago. However, you may not know about the rest of Mr. Jordan's anti-American activities, some of which border on the treasonous.

    His op-ed piece in 2003 where he talked about ignoring Saddam Hussein's atrocities in order to maintain press access is just the beginning. Here's a small list of some of Jordan's other escapades:
    • August 16, 1997 - Eason Jordan gave a gift to Kim Jong-Il, murderous thug and communist dictator extraordinaire of North Korea. No word on what the gift actually was.
    • March 10, 1999 - Eason Jordan gave a speech at Harvard University, where he gave thanks to Fidel Castro for inspiring the creation of CNN International.
    • October 10, 2002 - Eason Jordan, speaking in Slovenia, accuses the Israeli Army of deliberately shooting at journalists (sound familiar?)
    • November 19, 2004 - Eason Jordan, at a media conference in Portugal, accuses the U.S. Military of killing journalists, and even of arresting and torturing them.
    His January remarks were nothing new. Eason Jordan's contempt for the United States and its military were well-documented.

    I don't think he needs any slack at all; in fact it was too little to late.

    Rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by rep
    Here are my links showing Gannon has some ( granted weak) credentials from a "liberal blog" saying he resigned from Talon News and also had other right wing news affiliations.

    Gannon was linked to gay websites but not one bit of material shows him to be a male prostitute. Besides aren't you the one defending his right to "self expression".

    I guess that is reserved only for "liberal" news reporters.

    http://mediamatters.org/static/mirror/gannonbio.html

    Please show your links supporting your statement that he is a male prostitute.

    Otherwise your have jumped to conclusions again.

    Rep
    You know what? You are NOT going to TELL me to SHUT UP! I do not appreciate the tone of your post. If you want to have a debate with people on this message board, then I suggest that you don't tell poeple to SHUT UP, or that they have "jumped to conclusions" again. Are we clear?

    And one more note: Don't go over "there" with your friends and post a link whining, it really makes you look sad!
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    It's a figure of speach..................Jana

    Quote Originally Posted by Jana Lewis
    You know what? You are NOT going to TELL me to SHUT UP! I do not appreciate the tone of your post. If you want to have a debate with people on this message board, then I suggest that you don't tell poeple to SHUT UP, or that they have "jumped to conclusions" again. Are we clear?


    "put up or shut up"

    Act on what you are saying or stop talking about it, as in You've been citing evidence for months but never presented itnow put up or shut up. This somewhat impolite term, is believed to come from gambling, in which a card player is told to ante up or withdraw. A second theory maintains that it means either put up your fists to fight or back down. [1870s] Also see put one's money where one's mouth is.


    Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of Idioms by Christine AmmerCopyright © 1997 by The Christine Ammer 1992 Trust. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company.

    How about if I just point out your most recent inconsistency.

    While discussing a reporter....................

    Poor qualifications? Try NO JOURNALISM at all and a MALE PROSTITUTE at that!


    While discussisng same sex marriage............

    I am "stealing" this from a political blog I go too. This pretty much sums it up for me... in the end, we are all simply HUMAN.

    I look forward to the day......

    ...when we will be free to walk down the streets without being called "faggot" or "queer" or "dyke". When we can hold hands in public without fearing for our safety.

    I look forward to the day when we can go to work and do our jobs without being called names. When we are not told we are “flaunting” our sexuality by putting up a picture of our husbands and wives or telling the truth about what we did on the weekend.

    I look forward to the day when we will be free to attend school without teachers blaming us for AIDS, students taunting us for being "effeminate" and having to listen to principals excuse students for using "Gay" to mean "stupid".

    I look forward to the day when we will be able to bring our husbands and wives into this country without having to tell the Immigration officials that they are just "friends". When we will be able to move from state to state without losing our rights. When we do not have to move to another country to find acceptance.

    I look forward to the day when talking about “family values” includes our families. When Gay sons and Lesbian daughters are not thrown out of the house for who they love. When Transgendered men and women are allowed to live proudly without being mocked or abused on freakish talk shows.

    I look forward to the day when politicians stop using our lives as a tool to incite hatred. When even the "supportive" politicians are no longer willing to abandon us for the sake of political expediency.

    Finally, I look forward to the day when all Americans understand that we are their sons and daughters and aunts and uncles and cousins and mothers and fathers, and teachers and doctors and ministers and farmers, and immigrants… and we deserve equality

    Evidently you have one set of values when discussing you SSM agenda and another set of values when discussing reporters you want to smear. ( until you find a link - its a smear)

    What a perfect example of liberal mantra - a clear set of rules to live by for everyone - but of course - not yourself. How wonderfuly liberal.

    Yes - now, finally I think everything is perfectly clear, to everyone.

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    A little common courtesy......

    wouldn't hurt either side in this discussion. As a matter of fact, it would be refreshing! There's too much noise now, for either side to hear each other.If you wish to scream at one another, do it by PM. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rep
    Evidently you have one set ofvalues when discussing you SSM agenda and another set of values whendiscussing reporters you want to smear. ( until you find a link - its asmear)

    What a perfect example of liberal mantra - a clear set of rules to liveby for everyone - but of course - not yourself. How wonderfuly liberal.

    Yes - now, finally I think everything is perfectly clear, to everyone.

    Rep
    On the other hand, Jana may have an issue with prostitution. Does "male prostitute" have to mean "gay prostitute"?
    ...Just ask me...

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    Spex, Sounds to me like you are chumm'in

    Its an olde Cape Cod fishing expression meaning throwing fishguts into the water to attract the game fish into a feeding frenzy. The fisherman then casts into the rising fish thinking he can fool them into going for the lure. Sometime it works ........and sometimes it doesn't! Oftentimes the fish are a tad more intelligent than the fisherman gives them credit for being, and the fisherman goes home emptyhanded.

    If Spex is Chumm'in and Jana is Chumm'in and you could certainly say with accuracy that this thread and its author was Chumm'in.......Well in the words of Rodney King........"Can't we all be Chums???"

    The gospel according to a Cape Codger. :bbg:
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    Quote Originally Posted by rep
    "put up or shut up"

    Act on what you are saying or stop talking about it, as in You've been citing evidence for months but never presented itnow put up or shut up. This somewhat impolite term, is believed to come from gambling, in which a card player is told to ante up or withdraw. A second theory maintains that it means either put up your fists to fight or back down. [1870s] Also see put one's money where one's mouth is.


    Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of Idioms by Christine AmmerCopyright © 1997 by The Christine Ammer 1992 Trust. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company.

    How about if I just point out your most recent inconsistency.

    While discussing a reporter....................

    [/b]

    While discussisng same sex marriage............



    Evidently you have one set of values when discussing you SSM agenda and another set of values when discussing reporters you want to smear. ( until you find a link - its a smear)

    What a perfect example of liberal mantra - a clear set of rules to live by for everyone - but of course - not yourself. How wonderfuly liberal.

    Yes - now, finally I think everything is perfectly clear, to everyone.

    Rep
    Hear is your clearness..REP.

    The websites that Gannon has been linked to are male escort sites. Seeing that this is a profesional website, I believe I won't post links to pornographic material. If you would like me to PM the illicit material just let me know.

    My issue is not with gannon being gay, my issue is with ILLEGAL activity, AND the fact that his name is not really GANNON. Also how about the HUGE article he wrote for Talon screaming about how horrible it is to be gay?

    Now... since you are so clear on everything....HAR HAR HAR. Explain to me, how a "supossed" white house press reporter with NO credentials with an assumed name can field questions to the most powerful person in the world? Can you explain that? Did you know that even the women reporters in the WH press corps have to apply by using their MAIDEN NAMES?

    Now, you tell me... what is wrong with this picture?

    I would have preferred an apology for your use of the word shut up... but I guess that would be asking waaaaaaaaaaaay to much.
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    Just a review..................

    1. I am not defending Gannon/Duckert. Never have.
    2. I did challenge you assertion that he had no journalism and was a male prostitute. He was linked as an owner of gay websites but the is no indication at all that he was a male prostitute. A big difference. A gay website is not illegal.
    3. In your last post in one sentence you say he wrote a huge article in the "Talon" screaming about how horrible it is to be gay and in the very next sentence you say that he is a supposed white house press reporter with no credentials. Make up your mind. Either he was a reporter with obvious press credentials ( daily passes) or he as you already have previously stated had no journalistic qualifications at all.
    4. No, sorry your not going to get an apology, because I didn't tell you to shut up. I did post, in the heading of a reply, an old English idiom implying - prove your point or put your money where your mouth is. It was nothing more, dispite your repeated attempts to make it so.
    5. Since you can't or won't post an appropriate link I will post mine which is ironically a very liberal blogger who has been following the story for quite some time and is claiming responsibility for Gannon/Duckert's resignation from the Tallon, who you reference, but fail to acknowledge as a news organization. http://mediacitizen.blogspot.com/200...r-inquiry.html It refutes your claim that Gannon/Duckert had no journalistic qualification and that he was a male prostitute. He was in fact issued daily credentials for over two years.
    6. I am only pointing out the many inconsistencies of your statements without personal attacks. Consider doing the same?
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    Do you realize that to get into the white house press corps that you have to have YEARS of experience? The people who are there, currently have bitten to the top. Gannon/Gueckert did not. He wrote for Talon albeit for not very long, he also does not have a degree in journalism. He is not someone who should have been allowed to field those questions to the President of the United States. OKAY???? .

    I also don't think I ever mentioned that gay websites are illegal, however.... ESCORT services are illegal and Gannon/Guekert has been linked to websites that have male escorts for sale with his picture in a pair of underwear...Need I say more? Or would you like me to PM you the sites that have his picture along with some very graphic pornography?

    I actually cannot believe that you of all people have chosen to defend this guy! IT's actually pretty shocking, from you especially. Homophobes usually are the first ones to declare their distaste! Your shocking me here!

    Oh and btw---- your news source is no good, liberal or not.
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    I agree Jana .....................

    Getting into the White House press core use to be tough. But the world of national and international media is changing. While I am not at all a fan of Gannon and have said so ad nausum, I am happy about the changes that have taken place in regards to bloggers who have on the left and right uncovered things the " media giants" for a number of reasons are not reporting. That has led to the downfall of some media giant leaders and there are soon to be some others to follow at CBS.

    My point is that although Gannon is not anybody's model blogger reporter, bloggers should be allowed entry into presidential press conferences and any press conference for that matter. More than likely , some of them have a bigger audience than many of the current members of the stoggy white house press core. That world is changing and will change even more if the ratings continue to slide.

    I realize that you are pointing out his lack of a degree in journalism. But I would be willling to stake money that a large percentage of those crusty old ladies and gentlemen of the 4th estate don't have degrees in journalism either. Reporters with degrees are a relatively new occurance. Many have other degrees, as does Gannon, and a lengthy work history, which Gannon did not.

    The picture you reference has not been confirmed as Gannon by anyone anywhere. Again your smearing without good references and no I don't need you to send me smutty material. Thank you for the offer, I pass.

    You just have to continue with the personal attacks, don't you (homophobe)

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    Time to close this. It's obvious that no one is listening to the other side and instead of honest attempts at communication, there is only lecturing and no listening.


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