Help me choose the best lenses for my personal eyeglasses! $5 paypal prize!

[Ligament]

Hello All,

Please help me choose the best lens and AR combo.

I will paypal $5 to the person that gives me the most thorough response explaining their recommendations. Paypal only and only one person gets it. Will choose best response next friday and pay you.

I am offering the $5 because I see lots of people on here asking the same question as myself, which is repetitive and boring. You deserve to get paid for your expertise and I figure $5 for a quick reply on a discussion forum is fair for the invested time.

Here is my prescription:

OD (Right)
-3.50 sphere
-1.50 cylinder
73 axis
- add
- prism

OS (Left)
-2.75 sphere
-2.25 cylinder
95 axis
- add
- prism

Here are my frames (PHOTO BELOW)
Freudenhaus "MILES" SIZE: 50-17-135 100% Titanium

I am thinking of Trivex lenses with Crizal Alize AR coat. However, I know that these happen to be the most heavily advertised of their type, so I have an open ear to something better.

I am looking for, in order of priority, in a lens:
1. Thin
2. High clarity/light transmission to the eye
3. Safety
4. Weight

In an AR coat:
1. Dust and Smudge resistance
2. AR
3. Difficult to scratch

So please let me know what would meet my requirements.

Thanks! Ligament

[coda]

Cost not a concern...

Then surely you can up the 'prize' to something meaningful. ;)

[hcjilson]

For the correct answer, go to your original post. Trivex and Crizal. I would bet the 5 bucks that you won't be disappointed, but that would make it 10 you owe me! :bbg:

Let us know how you like them.

[Ligament]

ttt

[Lee Prewitt]

I would go with either 1.60 index or 1.67 index lenses. First offers great optics and thinner than Trivex and the latter is the thinnest and good optics. Price really soes matter in the end but both are great products. 1.67 will run you more money but give you really thin lenses. The Crizal Alize is an excellent choice of AR. As for the $5, please donate it to one of the tsunami relief funds that are linked through OptiBoard instead. Cool looking frame BTW.

[hcjilson]

From Washington State, Trivex can be ground to a 1 pt center, is lighter, safer, (by a factor of something like 75%) and an acceptable index of refraction.Crizal Alize' is what I was referring to for AR. I would bet even money the wearer couldn't tell the difference between 1.67 and Trivex and the added safety factor far outweighs index of refraction. Still going with Trivex as the material of choice.
If Ligament is interested enough, the subject has been debated at great length in other threads which can be found with a search. No need to rehash it all here! :bbg: :bbg:

GO
PATS! hj

[Lee Prewitt]

I stand corrected. :bbg:

Donate to Tsunami for all the great info you have received.

[hcjilson]

I faced a similar dilemma while trying to get progressive lenses for my 3 piece mounting, and another Optiboarder was instrumental in getting me a trial set of Varilux Comfort 1.67 lenses to review for this site. In all truthfullness they were every bit as good as my Trivex lenses, and I wear them to this day (but I still prefer my Trivex because I like the frame better!)

I believe that either choice will give the wearer satisfactory results. Nice to talk to you Lee.....it gives me another chance to say GO PATS!!!!!

hj

[For-Life]

I am going to be the evil optician and post that a good aspheric poly with Zeiss Carat Advantage or Crizal Alize would be a good choice.

[Lee Prewitt]

Enjoy the game Harry!!! Pats by 17.:cheers: :cheers:

[Joann Raytar]

Harry or anyone here,

Would any of the suggestions so far be too thin at 1.0 CT for a grooved rimless?

[hcjilson]

Plenty of room......GO PATS! xxoo's hj

[For-Life]

Harry or anyone here,

Would any of the suggestions so far be too thin at 1.0 CT for a grooved rimless?

I uses lenses with a 1.0 CT all of the time for a grooved rimless - as along as they are not plus lenses ;)

[Jedi]

TL 1.67 w/ Crizal D' Alize, or Nikon 4 w/ ICE HCC, or Zeiss 1.67 w/Carat Advantage. If the lab determines the lens is too thinfor thegroove it can be surfaced. Also, you get a better warranty onthecoating if the lens is made by the company doing the coating, inEssilor's case it's 2 years , I believe it would be only one if youwent with Trivex. Can you even get D'Alize on trivex or just Alize?

[Ryan]

I am not sure the Trivex material can be coated with Crizal ALize. The Crizal ALize is a must for AR coatings. It is so smudge resistant and easy to clean, you WILL NOT be disappointed. The 1.67 high index is going to be the best lens for you. High Index lenses have been around for awile and it is tested and true and you know exactly what you are getting, super thin, and great optics. Trivex is a good material, but is limited and if you cant get ALize on it, then don't get it. The best overall combo is 1.67 with ALize.

[Chris Ryser]

If I would answer your questions at length a $ 5.00 price be an open insult.

Your RX is as simple as they come. Any decent optician your way will give you the right answer and product.

For a starter you can search the web and you will find..........loads of answers ......... You can go on my website which will give you everything on lens treatments at http://optochemicals.com

Should you want to award the price to me..........please give it to your favorite benevolent society.

[For-Life]

With Trivex you can get Super - Hi Vision, which is a great coating comparable to Alize.

[Ligament]

Thanks for the responses so far. So its a battle between 1.67 and Trivex. Alize seems to be the very clear winner in AR.

D'Alize is a blue hued AR, correct? Can anybody confirm which alize product is available on Trivex?

If you don't want $5 for yourself or charity then dont reply. I think $5 for 5 min of your time is very fair. I suppose if you are making over $60/hr don't reply. You guys answer similar questions all the time for free. I was trying NOT to insult you by offering the $5.

Best!

[RT]

To the best of my knowledge, Trivex is NOT available with Essilor's Crizal and Crizal Alize family of products. Since those coats require specific hardcoating chemistry that is very specific, Essilor tends to not provide Crizal on non-Essilor lens materials.

Having said that, For Life pointed out that Super HiVision, available from HOYA on Trivex, is considered to be comparable to Alize in terms of AR performance, cleanability. Super HiVision adds further performance by offering abrasion resistance of approximately twice that of Alize, as measured by the Bayer Abrasion test. Super HiVision would be the most durable choice in AR.

Should Trivex be your material choice, then Super HiVision should be the AR coat of choice.

[hcjilson]

CR39, 1.56,1.60. 1.66, 1.67, AND Poly......it is resonably safe to say that it CAN be applied to Trivex.

The point that the thread's author is trying to make (about as subtlely as trying to kill an ant with a sledgehammer) is that it WON'T be applied to TRIVEX because it is a propriatary process and Essilor will only put it on Essilor products. Essilor has no Trivex product, ergo you may not have Alize' on Trivex.

Methinks our ligaments are being pulled for less than short money! It must be that, for I have not heard that the prize has been awarded and the question has been answered by no less than the author of the thread.

GO PATS!!!!!

[shanbaum]

If you don't want $5 for yourself or charity then dont reply. I think $5 for 5 min of your time is very fair. I suppose if you are making over $60/hr don't reply. You guys answer similar questions all the time for free. I was trying NOT to insult you by offering the $5.

Best!

You must excuse Chris - he probably thought you were offering $5 Canadian, which would of course be insulting.

[For-Life]

Thanks for the responses so far. So its a battle between 1.67 and Trivex. Alize seems to be the very clear winner in AR.

D'Alize is a blue hued AR, correct? Can anybody confirm which alize product is available on Trivex?

If you don't want $5 for yourself or charity then dont reply. I think $5 for 5 min of your time is very fair. I suppose if you are making over $60/hr don't reply. You guys answer similar questions all the time for free. I was trying NOT to insult you by offering the $5.

Best!

D Alize is the blue hued AR and Alize is the green, so you are correct. If you get Trivex with the Super HiVision you will be very happy with the AR.

Also, do not waste your money on a 1.67 since it will be no thinner than an aspheric poly or a 1.6. Instead get a poly or 1.6.

As for the Canadian dollar :angry: it is quickly rising and today is at 80 cents where just a few years ago it was at 60 cents - Anyways, as a Canadian I prefer a lower dollar.

Oh yeah, go Pats!

[Ryan]

So, you are saying a 1.67 lens is no thinner than a 1.60 index? Please explain your reasoning.



GO EAGLES!

[For-Life]

So, you are saying a 1.67 lens is no thinner than a 1.60 index? Please explain your reasoning.



GO EAGLES!

In a 50 eye size with that RX I bet it would be no thinner than 0.2mm. Would it be thinner, of course, but how much, extremely minimal. With a 1.0 centre thickness you can only go so thin.

Edit - Of course decentration comes into play, but still I would put my money on an aspheric poly or 1.6, and that a 1.67 would not have any real difference in thinness.

[Ligament]

Ok, Looking at

1.67 with Crizal Alize or D'Alize
vs.
Trivex with Super HiVision (people seem to agree Alize is NOT availiable on Trivex lenses)

There seems to be a dearth of info on Super HiVision on this forum compared to Alize. Those who mention HiVision are very enthusiastic. Can anybody who has personally used both comment? Is Hoya's data on scratch resistance accurate?

Thanks!