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    Transitions V

    just got all the info from essilor about transitions V, it is being released here this
    month, just wondering if it is out in the U.S. yet, and if so any feedback would be appreciated.
    To find out what,s happening in the UK optical market:
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    it will go

    It will be out February 1, 2005 which is two weeks. We just got our vouchers for customers to try.

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    So what's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edKENdance
    So what's the difference?
    From what I read:
    • Up to 84 percent darkness compared to 78 from the NG
    • Darker in one minute than NG in five.
    • Lightens up twice as fast

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    What is..........................

    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life

    Up to 84 percent darkness compared to 78 from the NG
    Is that transmission or absorbtion..................???????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikon44
    just got all the info from essilor about transitions V, it is being released here this
    month, just wondering if it is out in the U.S. yet, and if so any feedback would be appreciated.
    Can you tell us what the info from Essilor said about the Transitions V? I'd like to read something about it.

    Don

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    quoting from Transitions Optical (newsletter)

    Discover the Most Advanced Photochromic Lens Ever.

    Introducing Transitions® V Lenses with ESP (Enhanced Scientific Performance)! Available in 12 semi-finished single vision and 27 progressive lens designs in either polycarbonate, Trivex®, or higher-index (1.60, 1.67) materials, Transitions V Lenses are faster to activate and deactivate, and darker outdoors than previous technology in premium materials - and are still virtually as clear as a regular, clear lens indoors.

    Transitions V combines its new patented ESP photochromic dye system with Transitions' exclusive surface technologies, including the Trans-BondingTM process, which first made it possible to offer photochromic technology in materials beyond standard- and mid-index.

    With Transitions V Lenses, Transitions continues to push the boundaries of clarity, darkness and speed while never "losing sight" of other critical performance factors such as UV blockage, coatings compatibility and fatigue resistance. Transitions V Lenses become as dark as sunglasses outside in bright light, achieving an 84 percent tint, significantly darker than previous premium material technology. The lenses are quicker to react to changing light conditions, fading back more than two times faster. They are also easier to process and more compatible with increasingly sophisticated coating systems.

    We know that higher performing eyewear and premium materials are driving business growth for our optical partners. We're proud to be the manufacturer to offer the most advanced photochromic technology in a broad range of materials and to take that performance - and business opportunity - to an even higher level with Transitions V.

    Be ready to advance. The lenses will be available to offer to patients by Feb. 1, 2005.

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    hmmm, they did not mention CR-39. I hope that is just a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rinselberg
    ...Available in 12 semi-finished single vision and 27 progressive lens designs in either polycarbonate, Trivex®, or higher-index (1.60, 1.67) materials...
    Thank you for the Transition V information.

    What exactly is meant by 27 progressive lens designs? Are there 27 different companies that have the rights to use Transition V?

    Does the availability of 12 semi-finished single visions mean base curves?



    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life
    hmmm, they did not mention CR-39. I hope that is just a mistake.
    My understanding is that transitions v will only be available in airwear, and stylis
    not in cr 39.
    To find out what,s happening in the UK optical market:
    http://theOptom.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikon44
    My understanding is that transitions v will only be available in airwear, and stylis
    not in cr 39.
    Typical. If that is true I will not be happy. I do not think it is right to charge someone so much more for a lens index that they do not need. I am not a fan of putting a -0.50 in poly for no apparant reason other than it comes with transitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life
    Typical. If that is true I will not be happy. I do not think it is right to charge someone so much more for a lens index that they do not need. I am not a fan of putting a -0.50 in poly for no apparant reason other than it comes with transitions.
    My reading of the newsletter is that Transitions V has the specific objective of improving photochromic performance in the mid and high index materials, which were not performing as well as the CR-39. You still have your CR-39 in Transitions NG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life
    I am not a fan of putting a -0.50 in poly for no apparant reason other than it comes with transitions.
    I agree. But since it's very unbreakable I try to steer parents into getting it for their kids.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by rinselberg
    My reading of the newsletter is that Transitions V has the specific objective of improving photochromic performance in the mid and high index materials, which were not performing as well as the CR-39. You still have your CR-39 in Transitions NG.
    Poly works well for me. Even so, these lenses will be better than the NG, so why not introduce it to CR-39 (rhetorical, I know why).

    The thing is I know the industry is going all poly, but there are still a lot of problems with poly. As for trivex, it is very expensive.

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    Apparently the main purpose of Transitions V is to improve Poly and 1.60 indexes and above. As we know Poly Transitions has not performed as well as plastic Transitions NG. I have a sample of Transitions V. It is Poly and when activated next to a plastic NG it is faster, darker and when brought in doors is lightens much faster. I also was told that Shamir's new 1.60 Genesis Transitions is the new Transitions V formula. I'm looking forward to next weeks Transition Meeting in Orlando. Our Lab like the other Labs that are Transitions Platinum Elite Labs have free fit vouchers to launch the new Trans. V product.
    John Zimmerman
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    My understanding is that Poly transitions is not "New Generation" but is something call "quantum".

    I've noticed poly transitions not working as well as "NG" so am looking forward to transitions 5.

    An aside...Was transitions 3 only one improvement back? Should the new product be Transitions 7?

    Harry

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    Wink Might just as well get it from the horses mouth!

    I had the same question a week ago. I went to our Transitions forum to ask Jim Schafer, Find it here: http://www.optiboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11567


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    Does it still have the same problem of not darkening while in the car? That issue is by far the most important negative to overcome.

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    Photochromatic.................................... ....

    Quote Originally Posted by Specs

    Does it still have the same problem of not darkening while in the car? That issue is by far the most important negative to overcome.
    Photochromatic action in lenses and other object treated with the material is initiated by Ultra Violet rays.

    In a car, unless it is a convertible with open top, UV rays are absorbed by the glass of the windows. Therefore the lenses will not work properly.

    It is not the day light or artificial light that makes these lenses react unless it contains UV rays.
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    As stated earlier, Transitions V pertains to Airwear and 1.67. These were the materials which were not addressed by the NextGen product launch (the fourth generation of photochromics from Transitions). The technology for each material is different, which accounts for the different timing / application of each new generation of technology.

    In addition to adding performance in both speed and depth of color, the Trans V poly product will work better with integrated ARs (e.g., Crizal) due to an additional protective layer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Hanlin
    Coincidentally, the fade time of Transitions V is up to 3 times faster when Crizal is part of the lens!
    Does this mean it fades in one third of the time it takes NG to fade?
    ...Just ask me...

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    It means that, depending on temperature, activation state, etc., a Transitions V lens with Crizal Alize will fade to clear up to 3x faster than a Transitions V lens without Crizal Alize.
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    THe info that you have is correct.

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