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    FWIW I have had patients take my RX on at least...

    FWIW I have had patients take my RX on at least one occasion and was told they could not fill an out-of-state Rx. I thought that was just California being California.
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    Hasn't hurt Apple, or it least it seems like a...

    Hasn't hurt Apple, or it least it seems like a safe assumption. Bose, too, has prospered under such price floor setting.
    Also I doubt patients will see us as the ones responsible. There is another...
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    Air Optix Night & Day has a coating. I am...

    Air Optix Night & Day has a coating. I am assuming it was determined with Ciba (at the time) that the coating was missing, I was at this point only involved for the verification of the replacement...
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    Maybe you are open M-F, so they have no choice...

    Maybe you are open M-F, so they have no choice but to call you when you are open? Not the case here. I've had kids with central corneal scarring that makes them effectively blind in that eye, seen...
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    I apologize, I read it as "Which do you think...

    I apologize, I read it as "Which do you think it's a bigger issue to public health? Internet eyeglasses or sugared beverages?"

    The "officials" part changed the tone of the question, so I hope...
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    I love the UPP too. I just mean that it changed...

    I love the UPP too. I just mean that it changed my original plan to undercut.

    People can buy glasses from a B&M for less than many online retailers, so I don't count that as being in favor of...
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    You started with me. Don't be angry with me for...

    You started with me. Don't be angry with me for pointing out your glaringly flawed logic. In fact, everything you have said to me has been a personal attack, despite you denying it. I asked you to...
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    I think you and I are on the same page, actually....

    I think you and I are on the same page, actually. It just sounds like some people are ready to have us wash our hands of materials in general. My original intent (prior to the UPP) was, upon opening,...
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    And sitting on an optometry board doesn't make...

    And sitting on an optometry board doesn't make you a good optometrist. Not sure why you have a bone to pick with me, but I'd say your logic and debating skills don't reflect a good optometrist or a...
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    False choice, and quite obviously a pathetic...

    False choice, and quite obviously a pathetic attempt to downplay the importance of proper eyewear. Do you think they should all go OTC, like sugared soda? You a Bloomberg guy?
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    The undertakers will not be happy to hear that.

    The undertakers will not be happy to hear that.
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    Well you implied I have some hero complex, which...

    Well you implied I have some hero complex, which was uncalled for, given my statements, and I spoke more to the emotional reaction than to your character, but w/e.
    Is that the measure of quality...
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    I am next to an optical, so my rent is nominal. I...

    I am next to an optical, so my rent is nominal. I DO plan to open and sell, but as I was saying, patients are happy with your goods and services until your "goods and services" becomes just...
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    Not all doctors sell materials. Unless you are in...

    Not all doctors sell materials. Unless you are in a "nominal" rent scenario, how can you stay open trying to increase service fees to make up for lack of profit on materials when you can't raise your...
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    The only way to do this is to get rid of vision...

    The only way to do this is to get rid of vision "insurance", which I think will probably happen regardless within 5-10 years. Also you can't go online to circumvent at least half of these people with...
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    I think you are reading far too much into my...

    I think you are reading far too much into my comment, which leads me to believe you, like many here, are reacting emotionally and not logically. If you are an OD and aren't concerned (or worse, not...
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    So I provide a PD, then the optician measures...

    So I provide a PD, then the optician measures their PD, then the lab does their "best" to get the PD matched... yeah, all my fault.

    Your scenarios require a lot of assumptions, and my scenarios...
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    Obviously your case wouldn't lead to...

    Obviously your case wouldn't lead to emmetropization. I was talking about the ones I was talking about.

    As for the "malpractice" quip, let's just say some people can draw straight lines, others...
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    The wrong power can cause emmetropization and...

    The wrong power can cause emmetropization and adaptation to higher minus lenses than the patient needs. This can lead to virtually any symptom you would get with the wrong PD AND can increase the...
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    Was kinda funny, they banned UPP in Utah,...

    Was kinda funny, they banned UPP in Utah, appealed it up the chain in federal court during which 1800 used the same argument I make about the CL Rule - that it is not a federal issue and thus the...
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    Especially thanks to the UPP.

    Especially thanks to the UPP.
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    See this is you being out of your depth legally...

    See this is you being out of your depth legally and optically. I am not laying all of my cards on the table, but I do find it odd that you seem to think a PD can provide harm, but a lens power cannot.
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    Oh please. First of all I don't practice under...

    Oh please. First of all I don't practice under the name "Tigerclaw". Second of all, even if I did there is no proof that I am the same "Tigerclaw". Thirdly, my intent (for the hundredth time) is NOT...
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    Well considering that I neither sell eyewear nor...

    Well considering that I neither sell eyewear nor have a son...

    "Restraint of trade" speaks to intent. You aren't restraining trade because you block someone's car in, thus preventing them from...
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    That's how I get the message across and DO NOT...

    That's how I get the message across and DO NOT give out PD's since I WILL NOT get someone to pay me $50 for their PD so they can go online and buy glasses when 4 doors down they can get 2 for $39. It...
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