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  1. What type of phoropter do you use? Where did you...

    What type of phoropter do you use? Where did you go to optometry school? Can you name a prof or 2 you liked? See, I have serious doubts that you are an OD - because anyone with a half-ounce of actual...
  2. Shoulda coulda woulda bought their shares years...

    Shoulda coulda woulda bought their shares years ago, instead I stuck myself with Canadian energy stocks and a largely blah canadian portfolio. Just because there is a huge megamonster in an industry...
  3. You do realize, with your continued references to...

    You do realize, with your continued references to the power of google and a web search, that a consumer can buy glasses easily for $6.95, right? Do you know that this is NOT an Essilux company...
  4. Thanks lensman, I appreciate the sentiment, I am...

    Thanks lensman, I appreciate the sentiment, I am simply asking an optometrist who thinks I can't read to actually READ the article which he or she presented to us with this thread. By read, and...
  5. If this article is ONLY about lenscrafters (as...

    If this article is ONLY about lenscrafters (as the main retail arm of essilux, and the pictured store) or at least about Essilux retail outlets - why is there a link for people to learn how to buy...
  6. Question for the group. "Yet those same frames...

    Question for the group.

    "Yet those same frames and lenses might sell in the United States for $800."

    a direct quote from the farticle. Either the guy is referring to only Lenscrafters based in...
  7. Again , With Peace and Love. This article is...

    Again , With Peace and Love. This article is about the ripoff eyeglass industry, it is NOT about Essilux. Essilux, being the beastly presence, is an easy target to point to for there being a...
  8. https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/esloy/...

    https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/esloy/financials

    I mean - I am not an accountant and claim only slightly more than ZERO expertise in stock analysis. I see a COGS which is somewhat less...
  9. 1. Agree 2. Agree because you said so and...

    1. Agree
    2. Agree because you said so and generally i will take drk's word for anything
    3. Agree
    4. Agree
    5. Agree
    6. Agree
    7. Agree in advance to your next comment
  10. So. Have you reread the article you posted. It is...

    So. Have you reread the article you posted. It is about "ripoffs" in our industry, including, apparently, Warby Parker. He says frames are a few dollars and lenses are a couple of bucks. The fact...
  11. Insufficient competition. There are thousands and...

    Insufficient competition. There are thousands and thousands of independent retailers NOT controlled by luxottica, hundreds and hundreds of suppliers, online glasses, offline glasses and you can buy...
  12. So given that the competition bureaus around the...

    So given that the competition bureaus around the world green lit the merger - I suppose they are all on the take? I mean obviously they looked at the competitive landscape, they analyzed everything...
  13. Eaton's was a dominant player in canada. Sears...

    Eaton's was a dominant player in canada. Sears was a dominant player in North America, TOYSRUS was a big player in toys, America On Line was a big player in internet access. General Motors was a big...
  14. NO. My argument that the article is BUNK rests on...

    NO. My argument that the article is BUNK rests on the fact that IT IS NOT JOURNALISM. It is a One-sided HIT PIECE with ZERO FACTS presented and most importantly without the other side of the...
  15. So here, in sum, we have a hit piece on optical...

    So here, in sum, we have a hit piece on optical which cites 2 guys, one of whom refers to the other as a real go-getter. These two "experts" cast light on the dark shadow of Luxottica and seemingly...
  16. "I noted that if you wear designer glasses,...

    "I noted that if you wear designer glasses, there’s a very good chance you’re wearing Luxottica frames."

    And what is that chance? How important is the designer brand for eye health? Are there...
  17. "In the meantime, Dahan and Butler told me,...

    "In the meantime, Dahan and Butler told me, federal authorities should step up and prevent price gouging for eyewear — just as they’ve done with other healthcare products, such as EpiPens."
    ...
  18. Thanks, and gross profit does not equal net...

    Thanks, and gross profit does not equal net income or ebit. That will look even more regular world. If this article is true, eyewear is the most profitable business anywhere and Warren Buffet, Jeff...
  19. I love seeing customers one by one and hope I can...

    I love seeing customers one by one and hope I can do it for a long time to come, if I can stay healthy. I am an optometrist and product development is a side passion. I see clients in their teens,...
  20. I will further add, on this sleepless night, ...

    I will further add, on this sleepless night, that articles such as this, which are so lazily crafted and inane, ought not to be read with too keen an eye and with too much attention because it can...
  21. “There is no competition in the industry, not any...

    “There is no competition in the industry, not any more,” he told me. “Luxottica bought everyone. They set whatever prices they please.”

    actually this is the quote from the article which betrays...
  22. I will opine a little further on your attitude. I...

    I will opine a little further on your attitude. I run an independent full service practice, have more years of experience than I care to mention, have a number of utility patents in eyewear, have...
  23. right. there are no discount opticals in the...

    right. there are no discount opticals in the malls and streets of america. No warby parkers, no costcos, no bonlooks. Only luxottica essilor. No Kering, no silhouette, no zeiss, no tom ford, no...
  24. The problem with your facile analysis of a news...

    The problem with your facile analysis of a news article claiming that glasses "cost" 17 bucks and get sold to ripped-off consumers for 800 bucks, and how this is "consistent" with what you know about...
  25. Really. Very collegial comments, thanks. I...

    Really. Very collegial comments, thanks.

    I started with a reply in this thread that I felt that in fact CONSUMERS have plenty of choice, I did not reference our alternative optical suppliers. In...
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