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Trying to order through VSP and it’s not in the drop down.
Try looking for SmartliteQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaketull
It is available as the SmartLife Plus now.
Nice of Zeiss to rename all of their lenses four years ago, then do it all again now. :unsure:
Any quick reference chart available for these changes?
Essilor and Shamir as well?
My topper on frequent changes is a number of years ago the area codes in greater Boston underwent changes as mobile and fax requests were chewing up available numbers. In only 3 or 4 years we had our area code change 4 times! as new zones were carved out! But then again I remember as a kid the first 2 digits of a 7 digit phone number were letters. In my families case it was PA9-xxxx or Parkview 9-xxxx.
For a company that makes such superlative lenses, Zeiss sure does a crappy job at selling them and supporting the people who dispense them.
+1. No one could give me a straight answer when I asked about the minimum fitting heights on the Smartlife Plus S, M, or L, they just said it was the same as the precision plus, which came in 4 fitting heights....Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeHamm
It was not just a renaming of product. The SmartLife portfolio includes two free form SV, a Digital Lens(low add powers ranging from 0.50 - 1.25) and four progressives, which have the same name(Individual, Superb, Plus and Pure). SmartLife is an optimization and design change that allows for a globally smooth lens while also keeping features that were in the Precision Portfolio, which leads to reduced blur levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeHamm
The SmartLife Plus is a variable corridor progressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Camblor
The SmartLife Pure comes in three fitting height options, S(14mm), M(16mm) and L(18 mm). The S is a short corridor, M is a medium corridor and the L is a long or standard corridor.
Two? I've only read about the "SmartLife Individual SV". What is the other one?Quote:
Originally Posted by lensgrinder
Okay. I get that. But Zeiss changing their entire progressive lens portfolio twice in five years is not better than just renaming existing designs.Quote:
Originally Posted by lensgrinder
As far as I can find, this is Zeiss's current clear, single vision lens selection, not including coatings, etc...
Attachment 14822
It only mentions one SmartLife SV. If there is another one, I would be interested in hearing about it.
Apparently there is some optimizations to this lens, according to the "Smartlife Single Vision" treatise by Zeiss:Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeHamm
Attachment 14824
If they actually have indeed managed to reduce the marginal astigmatism to such a small error, I am rather impressed. This has been a serious issue for a long time. Of course, I expect, they exaggerate the benefit to a significant extent. I'd be interested in a journal article or white paper that examines the reduction in marginal astigmatism with this new design in real world applications.
The SmartLife Single Vision compensates for default PoW only where the SmartLife Individual Single Vision allows you to choose the PoW if you can and want to, but you are not required to.Quote:
As far as I can find, this is Zeiss's current clear, single vision lens selection, not including coatings, etc...
Attachment 14822
It only mentions one SmartLife SV. If there is another one, I would be interested in hearing about it.
Single Vision free form lenses were designed with the distant object and never considered near objects. When you engage at a near activity aberrations occur. If you consider Tscherning’s Ellipse where in order to receive a point focal lens the base curve needs to be changed for every component(i.e. object distance, material, thickness, vertex, center of rotation, etc). In the past we have made lenses to consider these variables, but we only considered 6 meters(distance). The SmartLife Single Vision or SmartLife Individual Single Vision considers not only distance objects, but a 30 cm object distance for near as research shows that single vision wearers hold digital devices at 30 cm.Quote:
Apparently there is some optimizations to this lens, according to the "Smartlife Single Vision" treatise by Zeiss:
Attachment 14824
If they actually have indeed managed to reduce the marginal astigmatism to such a small error, I am rather impressed. This has been a serious issue for a long time. Of course, I expect, they exaggerate the benefit to a significant extent. I'd be interested in a journal article or white paper that examines the reduction in marginal astigmatism with this new design in real world applications.
Do you still work for Zeiss? How do you deal with all of the complaints? Zeiss is is literally one of my least favorite companies and I deal with them as little as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by lensgrinder
I think they make the best lenses in the world. Literally the best. But everything else about the company in the US is a train wreck crashing into a dumpster full of diapers on fire. Two massive rebranding/new product roll outs in five years is ridiculous. Every rep they hire in our area has a strong sales background but no optical knowledge whatsoever, so when we need support in understanding the new lens portfolios they don't have the knowledge base to answer any questions. How are you gonna roll out a new array of lenses and not equip your territory with someone with technical expertise to help your clients succeed? I'm not comfortable dispensing lenses when most of my knowledge about them comes from a Google search. And I have no confidence that these new designs are even going to exist in five years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaketull
(I'm a little bitter because I interviewed for Zeiss territory rep jobs three times and never even got a "Thanks, but no thanks" email. But the point is still solid.)
I know there are some good lens companies out there, but Zeiss has to be in the top 3.
Yes, herr Germans don't think like the Frenchies or the hipster Israelis (and I don't know how the Seikos/Hoyas interact) but once you get through to their mindset, it makes more sense.
https://i.imgflip.com/4ue413.jpg
I had to teach my rep about basic optical things. It was ridiculous. She’d come into the office with and just basically tell us to sell Zeiss but couldn’t give us reasons why their lenses were better. I had to pretty much ban her and only have her come when asked.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeHamm
My reps great. Tough noogies, losers...hahahahaha
That's infuriating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaketull
One of my main complaints is that they no longer offer transitions as an option for their progressives and they have not come up with a comparable product to transitions xtractive that is specifically marketed to get dark behind a windshield. I know photofusion extra grey exists but it is not the same to my knowledge. I also think the transitions are a nicer grey and brown vs photofusion.
I find PhotoFusion Grey to be very purple compared to Transitions or SunSync.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Camblor
We have samples.
Photofusion gray extra does get pretty dark, and the regular gray is pretty true gray, but a little blue-ish.