Fitting height troubles with Shamir?
Does anyone have problems with the fitting heights for Shamir progressive lenses?
I like their products and I know they chose their fitting heights b/c that is what they feel gives the best possible vision.
The Shamir Genesis in Poly is a min. of 22 mm.!
It seems like most patients I fit have 17 or 18 - so I could use their short corridor (Shamir Piccolo) but...why use a short corridor when I can use a different prog. lens that fits and is not "short corridor."
I just want to know if I'm the only one that has issues with their fitting heights....b/c otherwise I really do like their products!!!
fitting height for Genesis
Hi Rob,
It is my understanding that the recommended fitting height for the Shamir Genesis is 19mm, regardless of material.
For more information, you can visit their website:
www.shamirlens.com
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Laurie
Sorry for getting slightly off track....
Robert-
You make a good point. I wish they would give an answer. Why? I can only guess that it is a different design. I don't see the reason for a different drop from one material to another.
PS. Why won't Shamir put the Piccolo in Trivex? I have asked repeatedly and have gotten the same response=none! My rep got tired of me asking him to dig up some info as to if and when. He never came thru. Needless to say, I don't ask anymore.....don't use them much now.
The real story on the Genesis Poly !!!
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Originally Posted by
TLG
I've used Shamir almost exclusively the past 2 years. My specs jive with Fezz's - 19mm hi for all materials but poly, which is 20mm. I am not aware of the shorter fitting cross of 2mm however.
I have fit a ton of Piccolo with almost NO complaints, but I'm beginning to feel suspicious about Genesis lately. .
I discoverd the problems mentioned at least 5 years ago and brought it to the attn: of the President of Shamir personally. We had been doing alot of the poly Genesis and were having problems on reading issues and it then I discovered the real deal.
THE GENESIS IS NOT THE SAME PRODUCT AS THE REST, IT WAS ANOTHER DESIGN (OLDER) AND BROUGHT TO MARKET BECAUSE THEY LACKED A POLY PRODUCT FOR THE US MARKET AT THE TIME.
We do 100% non glare and never realized what was going on until we got in a lens with the factory markings and realized the fitting cross was 2mm off from all the other Shamir products and we were fitting them wrong the entire time and the Marketing Director had personally assured me that the layout chart was the same. This caused us aton of re-do's and it is sad to see that after all this time they cannot deliver a consistent message.
I also just discovered they list blank sizes or the Creation lens in certain base curves and they are actually 5mm smaller than all the printed material. Even the computer at the surfacing lab (using DVI software) was not aware of either discrepency in fitting cross or true lens size.
To Shamirs credit: they did send me a bunch of coupons to help ease my burden; but they should get the story straight and ensure they distribute accurate information. I used to uses as much Shamir as possible and I now use as little as possible; I was the sale reps largest account and went to almost zero usage when they launched the Creation and we had so many problems with the scratch coating on the front surface. I think the issue has been dealt with.
The folks at Pech Optical are independent and carry all the major brands of lenses and coatings; they can give you an unbiased opinion of which products offer the most consistency. www.pech.com
They are friends and the best lab I have ever used; by the way I helped launch Crizal over 10 years ago as a company rep in Upstate NY.
Craig