Best Antiglare?

[edKENdance]

Indeed, AR EVERYTHING, and all prices are inclusive of it.

I don't have AR coatings, my lenses are anti-reflective. The intense process we use permanently bonds all lens layers, and one will not get typical crazing, flaking, and delamination of coatings that do not use this process.

Samesies.

[drk]

Ooohhh...I like "lenses". I don't like "coatings"...

[edKENdance]

No, because if they didn't buy them from you they're probably wearing crap. But you'll fix that!

It's pretty rare for my new customers to be coming from other comparable offices. There's the occasional transplant who needs a new provider and their old one was good, and their eyewear is good, but it's rare. Just about every new customer is transitioning from retail, either because of multiple poor experiences, or more typically they got a new job that offers VSP. And all their eyewear is crap. And it's not getting better, all the improvements are in the high end coatings. And I am SURE to point it out to them. "See all those ripples that are blurring your vision, and those spots wear the coating seem to be coming off? That's a poor quality finish on the lenses, which has deteriorated through no fault of yours. Mine won't do that."

Ah, maybe that's the difference. We got a lot of clients from high end practices and a lot of international visitors who only wear the best. Haven't seen a coating that's ever blown my mind and I used to sell them. Our private label produces on par with every other company's best.

[DanLiv]

Indeed, AR EVERYTHING, and all prices are inclusive of it.

I don't have AR coatings, my lenses are anti-reflective. The intense process we use permanently bonds all lens layers, and one will not get typical crazing, flaking, and delamination of coatings that do not use this process.

[Elvis Is Alive]

Thats what we do. All packages include AR. Don't want AR? No problem, but the cost is the same.

[drk]

<Reading the DanLiv tea leaves>

"Finish" eh? Does that mean, could it mean, is it possible that...

...you simply package AR on everything? It's a "finish" on high-end lenses?

Not an optional "add on" coating????

[DanLiv]

Y'know, we all see a ton of people everyday with glasses they've purcahsed elsewhere. They're either in for exams or in to purchase new glasses. In 20+ years I can't remember a single occasion in which I've been impressed with a coating that's been worn by anybody for a couple of years. Should I expect that to change in the next couple of years?

No, because if they didn't buy them from you they're probably wearing crap. But you'll fix that!

It's pretty rare for my new customers to be coming from other comparable offices. There's the occasional transplant who needs a new provider and their old one was good, and their eyewear is good, but it's rare. Just about every new customer is transitioning from retail, either because of multiple poor experiences, or more typically they got a new job that offers VSP. And all their eyewear is crap. And it's not getting better, all the improvements are in the high end coatings. And I am SURE to point it out to them. "See all those ripples that are blurring your vision, and those spots wear the coating seem to be coming off? That's a poor quality finish on the lenses, which has deteriorated through no fault of yours. Mine won't do that."

[edKENdance]

Y'know, we all see a ton of people everyday with glasses they've purcahsed elsewhere. They're either in for exams or in to purchase new glasses. In 20+ years I can't remember a single occasion in which I've been impressed with a coating that's been worn by anybody for a couple of years. Should I expect that to change in the next couple of years?

[AngeHamm]

I'm curious about the Sapphire HR.

It's the best AR coating I've ever used by a mile, in every way an AR coating can be judged.

[Apar83]

I'm curious about the Sapphire HR. Over here, we have to stick with the labs own coatings. I.e: Essilor only with Essilor, Zeiss with Zeiss, Shamir with Shamir etc.
We mainly use Zeiss and the Duravision Platinum is quite good. How does the Sapphire HR compare to it? The last place i worked at that used Essilor, Alize was the premium coating back then.

The only complaint i have with Zeiss DVPMC is it is not as "slick and slippery" as some other brands coatings i've seen in the past. But the scratch resistance is quite good.
The Glacier Expression from Shamir looked almost identical to the Zeiss DVPMC, after inspecting a recent order we did.

[NAICITPO]

In my experience, Sapphire tends to smudge too easily. I have a preference for Rock and Ex3 instead.
Regarding Anti-Reflective (AR) coatings, I believe, though I'm not certain, that their quality can vary significantly based on the lab applying them. It would be helpful if someone could confirm this.

I might have agreed with this on the Sapphire UV 360, but the new Sapphire HR this does not seem to be the case. The HR has similar hard coats that Rock has but with a better product overall.

[Lensman11]

The quality of the coating can absolutely be affected by the application. Errors can happen in any process but the lenses should not be sent out to the customer. In addition if is a licensed process there should be an audit done on a regular basis to insure consistency. The same goes for free form progressives there should be an audit process in place to insure quality.

[NAICITPO]

I have to look into the EX3 thanks for the suggestion.

They have EX4 now

[0pticianMagician]

Agreed , whadayagonnado?

[0pticianMagician]

I have to look into the EX3 thanks for the suggestion.