Give me my PD Petition.....................................

[Fezz]

You can say that again!

[Johns]

6561 people signed the petition since January 13, 2010...............................

and what do you say to this ?.....................................

Are you serious????? Are you REALLY serious???

From what we are told, there are (I'm rounding up here) somewhere around 400 trillion pairs of glasses being sold every hour online. And (correct me if I'm wrong here) since January of 2010 (2 years ago right?) there have only been 6,561 people sign this stupid petition?? That's almost a whopping 7 people per day!!!! OMG!!, WTF!!!!!HHC!!! (that's Online My Glasses, Wife That's Fat, & Holy, Holy, Cow)

Heck we've had Optiboard polls that drew more responses than this PD petition has!

Really?

[Johns]

6561 people signed the petition since January 13, 2010...............................

and what do you say to this ?.....................................

Are you serious????? Are you REALLY serious??? From what we are told, there are (I'm round up here) somewhere around 400 trillion pairs of glasses being sold every hour online. And (correct me if I'm wrong here) since January of 2010 (2 years ago right?) there have only been 6,561 people sign this stupid petition?? That's almost a whopping 7 people per day!!!! OMG!!, WTF!!!!!HHC!!! (that's Online My Glasses, Wife That's Fat, & Holy, Holy, Cow)

Heck we've had Optiboard polls that drew more responses than this PD petition has!

Really?

[4554lake]

Give them their PD, fer cris' sake! Its part of their medical record. Let em try online. If u've done your job all along, charged fair prices, then, if that customer is truly right for you, they will be back! Just like real life when they try another B&M!

So,do you do no charge, after sales service, for these online shoppers?

[4554lake]

and what do you say to this ?.....................................


Give Me My Pupillary Distance


We, the undersigned, call on the General Optical Council (GOC) to take one simple step to give us, the consumers, a fairer deal and greater choice when buying our prescription glasses.
Under current GOC regulations, a prescription for glasses is not required to provide one crucial piece of information: the Pupillary Distance or PD, which is the distance between the centres of the patient’s pupils as illustrated above.
This measurement is essential to ensure that the optical centres of the lenses in your new glasses are perfectly aligned with your pupils, so as to provide maximum comfort and effectiveness.

Although consumers can, if necessary, measure their own PD, there is no legitimate reason for eye-care professionals to omit this measurement from the eye test prescription.

This is an unethical and anti-competitive practice and places an unnecessary obstacle in the way of patients who wish to exercise their freedom of choice and shop around for their glasses, especially if they want to take advantage of competitive prices from online suppliers.
In the interests of consumer choice, ethical professional practice and patient welfare, we call on the GOC to add the PD measurement to optical prescription forms without delay.

Read more about this campaign and view the evidence at: www.pupillary-distance.net

Who cares?....If people want their pd,I charge $40 for it.....If they dont want to pay,they can try to measure it themselves.....

Why should I give away my services,so someone can be their own optician ?

[LENNY]

My opinion is very basic!

I will do whatever I am paid for!

So far I dont see any procedure billable for PD measurements!

[AngeHamm]

Craig, my position is that *any* where a person gets examined, the PD should be made part of the RX, upon request. Our industry should not impede consumers in this regard. Our office is primarily no exams, and we take no insurance.

People come because they *want* to.

What a novel idea!

Clearly, consumers are increasingly reacting to optical businesses witholding PDs in an emotionally-negative manner.

I would be *very* careful about fanning the flames of a negative emotional response. If you doubt me, ask the Susan Komen Foundation.


B

+1.

I have turned completely around on this issue. I'm now the one in the office agitating for us to come up with some way to monetize servicing online eyewear orders.

[Robert Martellaro]

Under current GOC regulations, a prescription for glasses is not required to provide one crucial piece of information: the Pupillary Distance or PD

One of many crucial pieces of information actually. Moreover, the OC position is frame dependent, so that the PD is not sufficient unless the lens is non-PAL or low and equal powers.

If you want to DIY, then do it, and quit whining. And don't wear them when driving unless you want to go to jail when you hurt someone due to your incompetence.

[Barry Santini]

Craig, my position is that *any* where a person gets examined, the PD should be made part of the RX, upon request. Our industry should not impede consumers in this regard. Our office is primarily no exams, and we take no insurance.

People come because they *want* to.

What a novel idea!

Clearly, consumers are increasingly reacting to optical businesses witholding PDs in an emotionally-negative manner.

I would be *very* careful about fanning the flames of a negative emotional response. If you doubt me, ask the Susan Komen Foundation.


B

[Craig]

Requests for pds have so far totalled 3-5, mostly from young adults. No problem giving them out.
i do believe now, however, that the PD should be part of the Rx if the client requests it.


B

You are not the one who did the exam? So how do you become part of the exam unless the OD is in your office and that is the arrangement?

[Barry Santini]

Requests for pds have so far totalled 3-5, mostly from young adults. No problem giving them out.
i do believe now, however, that the PD should be part of the Rx if the client requests it.


B

[Craig]

Give them their PD, fer cris' sake! Its part of their medical record. Let em try online. If u've done your job all along, charged fair prices, then, if that customer is truly right for you, they will be back! Just like real life when they try another B&M!

You are too nice and mellowing like a fine red wine! I do not drink wine- my wife drinks enough for both of us- and maybe that is why we do not give out PD's unless you donate $30 to my charity box. It happens to be Make A Wish.

I have only had 2 requests ever for a pd from me and maybe 8 total.

Barry,

Do you get many requests for a pd from an existing customer of yours and loose them? I doubt it on both accounts and am curious to see how many folks actually see and from whom.

Craig

[Craig]

I am a PD hippocrite and don't mind!

What will you say about me? We run an online business and also refuse to give out a PD. The online either gets them from the patient or we send them a ruler to use, no big deal and we had zero returns in 2011! So please don't tell me it can't work as we live it every day and have only looked to grow it in the future.

The PD is not the issue for success or failure of online optical; It will succeed and those who do not adapt will fail! The rules change and so do we or we will become extinct.

I sell online for full retail with only free shipping so discounts are not the reason we are growing.

I only share this as a real situation that shows when you focus on your issues and not that of the folks walking in your doors it seems that the Pd is an issue in success or failure.

Craig

[scriptfiller]

Why do people think they have the right to other people's time and equipment? The reason a PD is not part of the RX is it is not a (made-up word here) a diagnosable condition such as presbyopia or PVD. If a consumer is shopping at "DIY Optical" on line then they should DIY their PD.

Not being a carpenter, if I screw-up a DIY project at my home by not having the proper tool, I don't go to the local carpenter and brow-beat him to use his expertise/equipment. Same is true in reverse, I don't go to the carpenter to get his tools and expertise before starting my project.

[Barry Santini]

Give them their PD, fer cris' sake! Its part of their medical record. Let em try online. If u've done your job all along, charged fair prices, then, if that customer is truly right for you, they will be back! Just like real life when they try another B&M!