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**optispares** · 05-28-2002, 02:35 PM

hee hee

:D A bit late to show how Keane he is
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**10 Pence Short** · 05-28-2002, 03:51 PM

Cat and Pidgeons?

Roy Keane is the heart, lungs, legs etc. of the Irish side. I really fancied Ireland to do well this year, but without him they are nothing.

In this instance it's fair to say one man IS bigger than the team. Why do the Irish (and Mick Mcarthy) take such offence when Roy complains about the substandard approach the Irish team have had to this year's finals.

While the English team are playing valuable friendlies the Irish are still 'enjoying' r & r. Is that a professional way to prepare.

What a shame Ireland sent home their best player simply because the management cannot accept a few home truths.

Mind you, it's not as if Keane has ever been successful in football, is it?... If I was Irish I'd be praying for the Irish FA to apologise and beg Keane to come back!

**John R** · 05-28-2002, 11:00 PM

10 Pence Short said:
Cat and Pidgeons?

In this instance it's fair to say one man IS bigger than the team. Why do the Irish !

NO player is bigger than a team,Hold the front page "Beckem kicks ball" and they did right kicking him out...If he wanted to make his point he should have done it in priviate not at a team meeting and destroy team moral..Kean proberly gets more a week than the rest of the team put together...how do you think the other players feel....
As for england playing valuable friendlies if thats the standard we can expect from them....get the plane ready now...If we dont beat sweden on sunday as that line goes "Its all over now...

**Tim Hunter** · 05-28-2002, 11:41 PM

Agree that Keane behaved badly (what else did you expect!) as the moto goes "there is no I in team!"

Compare with Beckham who was a lion leading donkeys in the Greece game.

Don't care how we do (it would be nice to make it through to the next round but miracles take a little longer!). It's been worth it for the Germany game 5-1 in Dusseldorf (unbelievable) and that penalty against Greece. How many of us leaped from our seats and yelled quite a lot at that one (Me and my father in law obviously). :finger:

**10 Pence Short** · 05-29-2002, 02:17 AM

I think the English FA and (the alledgedly currupt) FIFA should rescue Roy Keane and Ryan Giggs from their bunch of no-hopers national teams and let them play for England.

Owen Hargreaves my a*rse. He loves the UK so much he went to play for the enemy.

**ioconnell** · 05-29-2002, 05:51 AM

Roy keane is a through and through Irishman.
I dont think that if you paid him he would play for England.

When the kits arrived late I thought "Jasus, thats a bit Irish". Keane was right to speak up about the terrible training conditions but what he said to Mick was un-called for.

After watching the full interview done by tommy Gormon I thought this chap wants to play, but both sides couldnt agree.
Keane is a man whose very virtues lead him astray.

Morale in the camp was low, but the Japanese have taken a shine to the Irish and boosted them.

I think that the lads in green are going to shine, they want to show that Ireland is not just a one man team and will rise to the occasion. Players to watch Robbie Keane, Damien Duff and Shay Given.

Main weakness' Gary Breen and Richie Dunne.

Outright winners, Argentina,

**10 Pence Short** · 05-29-2002, 08:16 AM

Your too right about Shay Given, He single handedly kept Newcastle around the top this season.

Of course Roy wouldn't play for England,mytongue is firmly planted in my cheek in my last post.

If I was the Irish FA I'd tell Mick to swallow his pride and think of the teams chances. Who would disagree that Ireland without Keane (Roy, that is) is a better team.

Don't think Robbie Keane will be up to much (though I wouldn't mind being proved wrong). This season at Leeds he's not exactly set the world on fire. Though who at Leeds has? Mind you,if I'm looking for an Irish star then Harte has the best left foot in the business. I'd rather face a Beckham free kick than a Harte left booter.

My comments about poor little Ryan (ankles like a 12 yr old girl) Giggs still stand, though!

**ioconnell** · 05-29-2002, 09:45 AM

Robbie has set the world on fire for country, pity about club though.

Swede Magnus Henman says he has found a way to stop a Becks free kick by deeply analysing his shots on video. Your right about Harte, He was one of the republics top scorers in the Qualifying campaign, not bad for a lazy left back

What do you make of the new advertising by Carlberg and Lucozade. The english Fa says it belittles their team However I wouldnt mind Ireland been pitted against Togo, greenland and CBS Drumcondra now.

The we have that Irish "Push it" guy with lucozade putting Owen through his paces to beet the boys in Green.

Last time we met it was a FRIENDLY and when Ireland took the lead in the 28th minute what did the English do? Start a riot

**John R** · 05-29-2002, 12:49 PM

ioconnell said:
Swede Magnus Henman says he has found a way to stop a Becks free kick by deeply analysing his shots on video.

Who needs a video all they got to do is stamp on his foot.... If beckem plays i bet he dont last the full 90....I give him 15 mins tops before they have to carry him off....

Na the Irish have the right idea, Mind you i would have been tempted to just let him sit in the stands watching the games knowing he could not play.....Just think had old Jackie still been incharge keene would now be a new type of fly on the end of his line......
Leeds owt to do the same with Boyer let him stew in the stands for the rest of his contract, then see if anyone will want him after a year out of the game.....
Had he not been stupid in the first place he would not have to pay the large legal bills he is now faced with, that even £40.000 a week cannot pay off....Boy dont your heart just bleed for the poor lad......:angry:

**ioconnell** · 05-30-2002, 06:36 AM

So who's gonna win? Is football coming home to England? I think not:finger:

**optispares** · 05-30-2002, 10:24 AM

winner is??

Brazil Italy final
brazil win 2-1:D

**John R** · 05-30-2002, 10:27 AM

Italy V Brazil 3 - 1 to Italy...

**10 Pence Short** · 05-30-2002, 11:02 AM

World cup final?

Japan 12 - S. Korea 7

Well, with Sep Blatter re-elected he can do what he wants!!

I am not a cynic, I am not a cynic, I am not a cynic, I must stop using Tim Hunters I am not a cynic method...

No really, I honestly believe if England get out of the group of death, injury and pestillence then anything can happen...

But, lets face facts- who's gonna argue about France Vs either Argy Bargies (Starring Juan Spastican Very on) or the Brazil Nuts (including Ronald Aldo) in the final. I think the frogs will walk it.

**ioconnell** · 05-30-2002, 12:27 PM

No really, I honestly believe if England get out of the group of death, injury and pestillence then anything can happen...

Well if ye English do Have injury problems remember you can always rely on MARCUS BENT and DEAN WINDASS for back up.

Thank god I didnt grow up with a name like that!!

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