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    It would have been nice to have heard what Blue Cheer and Guess Who were singing and playing in your last two posts, instead of the record playing in the background. What's up with that? Why anyone would go onstage and pretend to sing and play their instruments is beyond me. Unless...

    Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. - Richard P. Feynman

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      Rats, I thought the Dutch TV was live anyway.
      Oh well, here's some real Live Blue Cheer.
      Last edited by DragonLensmanWV; 05-26-2011, 07:28 AM.
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        Originally posted by DragonLensmanWV View Post
        ...here's some real Live Blue Cheer.
        There's the answer. I still have the album- my favorite track is Second Time Around. But they needed modern chemistry, multitracking, and very heavy editing to pull it off. Not as bad as the Monkeys and Milli Vanilli, but who needs more bogus music in a world surrounded by reality TV?

        Let's keep it in the same genre (a tad more boogie blues rock than psychedelic blues rock), but dial in slightly better vocals and muscianship.

        Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. - Richard P. Feynman

        Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test before the lesson.


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          DragonlensmanWV N.A.O.L.
          "There is nothing patriotic about hating your government or pretending you can hate your government but love your country."

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            Time to mellow out some.
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              This is Spooky Tooth.
              Last edited by DragonLensmanWV; 05-25-2011, 04:26 AM.
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                Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. - Richard P. Feynman

                Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test before the lesson.


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                  This is an interesting video. I juxtaposes footage from 1974 (or so) with newer concert footage from 2004. Really nifty editing to make is seem seamless, performing several decades apart.
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                    How about some Lovin' Spoonful?


                    Rats, there once was a live video of this song from the same TV show as before. Doesn't seem to be around anymore. It was a hoot. One spot Jerry Yester would pick up a hair dryer and sing through it and Joe Butler would come out from behind his drum kit and for a percussive effect, he'd throw a handful of tin cans in the air to crash down. But here's an album track.
                    DragonlensmanWV N.A.O.L.
                    "There is nothing patriotic about hating your government or pretending you can hate your government but love your country."

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                      Originally posted by DragonLensmanWV View Post
                      How about some Lovin' Spoonful?
                      Sounds like something Brian Wilson would do. FYI, Sebastian is lip-synced with a backing track, in other words it's all fake. The intro and outro are cut, and the key change from the studio recording (D to C?) is probably from playing the tape slower.

                      Note the tempo of this piece, the chicken licks from the Tele, the sound (off the mixing board) and that these are professional musicians at work, at their best (with feeling), live (one take), with well written material; i.e. Top-shelf.

                      Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. - Richard P. Feynman

                      Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test before the lesson.


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                        I might have to disagree. I saw this performance at the time, along with the Only Pretty, What A Pity song. On She's Still A Mystery, they play it differently than the studio song, there are small pauses in delivery of the lyrics not present in the studio version.The video may be slightly out of synch. Ed Sullivan usually required his acts to perform live. And on the OPWAP song, I doubt that they could arrange the cans to land at a specific time.
                        Plus it looks as though John's playing on what I believe to be a Dolceola (http://home.earthlink.net/~minermusic/dolceola.htm) appears to be actually played, the hammers hitting the strings and all.
                        And don't forget that their performance on Ed Sullivan of Do You Believe In Magic had the first ever live superimposing and video editing done.
                        http://goo.gl/m1Vi - Performed on "The Ed Sullivan Show" on March 19, 1967. Available on "The Very Best of The Ed Sullivan Show Volume 2", "Rock 'N' Roll For...

                        Though that is obviously not them performing the song live.
                        DragonlensmanWV N.A.O.L.
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                          Originally posted by DragonLensmanWV View Post
                          I might have to disagree.
                          It wasn't live. Hint- note the french horn, trombone, flute, and strings, at 1:12 (and other spots). The date was 10-15-67, about a year before the first Moog synthesier was used live (Emerson). There's a discussion concerning miming on this show here http://bsnpubs.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3817960 starting at post #32.

                          Well, Sullivans son in law, who ran the show , DID have a policy that groups should play live, but this went out the window around 1965 when pop music got more progressive. Hence the Mamas and the Papas, Turtles, Paul Revere, Cowsills, and many other acts including the Dave Clark Five, simply mimed their hits.
                          Pretty sneaky stuff, and to think these dudes rehearsed their mimes, to make it look more realistic. To be fair, it takes skill and courage to go on stage and fake it. What if the tape speeds up, or you forget the words or get the timing wrong. I'm sure it wasn't easy for Britney Spears to lip sync a whole concert tour, dancing like a kid with all of that silicone placed so high up on her body.
                          Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. - Richard P. Feynman

                          Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test before the lesson.


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                            Back to the Tunes!

                            The only live version I could find had a lousy vocal mix (from 2008), so you get the studio one. Don't ask me why I like this song, it just brings back great memories.

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                              Originally posted by Robert Martellaro View Post
                              Let's keep it in the same genre (a tad more boogie blues rock than psychedelic blues rock), but dial in slightly better vocals and muscianship.

                              Boogie?....Check

                              Blues?.......Check

                              Rock?.......Check


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                                Only two original members missing, but most of them are here.
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                                "There is nothing patriotic about hating your government or pretending you can hate your government but love your country."

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