PDs

[drk]

Yes!

No. The "not going to be involved with DIY opticianry/optometry and you can't make me or scare me" NAZI.

[Lelarep]

Chris, I'm not a retailer. I don't sell commodities. I don't have customers. Getting the point? Here's something as boring and mundane and run-of-the-mill as can be, but WE ALL DO IT so I highlight what we do, so all you naysayers can have a little professional pride. Job tray 1 on my desk: 4^ BU OD, 4^ BD OS. Job tray 2 on my desk: a special order double-bar frame with a vinylon strap for some fatty head that keeps corroding silicone saddle bridges. None of that is routine stuff, but it is for you and I. Because we are vision care specialists.

I can't imagine what they are doing/wearing/putting on their face that is eating through Slilicon Bridges at that rate!

[Chris Ryser]

Chris, I'm not a retailer.

I don't sell commodities.

I don't have customers.

Getting the point?


None of that is routine stuff, but it is for you and I. Because we are vision care specialists.

1)
Drk............If you are not a retailer, I heard that already 100 years ago stated by Optometrists.

They produce the Rx by testing the vision, and provide a service to the patient (not customer) to purchase a pair of glasses.

2)

Glasses are no commodity. They are scientific tool to see better than without.

3) Optometrist do not have customers, they have patients.

4) I am getting the point, ....................got it a long time ago

[drk]

Well, good, then.

I hear you saying...I'm a dinosaur. A dinosaur! Rarrrhhhh. I'm going to eat something....

Hey, I'm just saying that there are different classes of people who sell glasses.

Join the dark side, Luke, and come with me...we will be medical professionals and serve those who need vision care...

[mervinek]

we will be medical professionals and serve those who need vision care...

+1

[Chris Ryser]

Well, good, then.


Hey, I'm just saying that there are different classes of people who sell glasses.

Classification:

1. Manufacturer Frames

1a Manufacturer Lenses

2 Frame Wholesaler - Lens Labs

3 Optometrist - Optician (operated by owners)

4 Optical Chains (operated by corporations)

5 Internet (operated by 4)

6Internet (operated by 1 + 1a + 2)


Number 6 sells the least expensive glasses, however they are sold without any, often needed services.

[Slim]

We supply this with and RX out requests...

Legally, you have the right to your eyeglass prescription, and as a patient at (DV) you will always be provided with a copy upon request.

Listed below are the services/measurements essential to ordering a new pair of glasses to ensure clear and comfortable vision. These services/measurements are to be performed by the optician fitting your new glasses.

· Pupillary distance
· Segment height
· Vertical optical center
· Custom measurements for Position of Wear (“POW”)
· Eye size
· Bridge size
· Temple length
· Frame model and color
· Lens material and index
· Multifocal design and brand
· Optional lens features – such as tints, coatings, etc.
· Eyeglass dispensing adjustment
· Education and training on lens and frame features and care
· Ongoing adjustments
· Minor repairs

We provide the above services at no additional cost for patients who buy eyeglasses at DV, but we cannot provide them for glasses purchased elsewhere secondary to liability. While local opticians and optical shops generally do a good job of filling our prescriptions, we would like to caution you on the use of eyeglass vendors on the Internet. When purchasing spectacles via the internet these critical measurements and services are not met.

Here at DV we believe we offer the best value available when you consider service, quality, and cost. We understand if you decide to shop elsewhere for your glasses, but we hope this letter makes you aware of the risk. Please check with the vendor of your glasses to determine the return and refund policies in the event the product does not deliver.

Thank you for allowing us to participate in your eye health care. We hope you’ll continue to choose us as your primary eye care provider.

[Chris Ryser]

While local opticians and optical shops generally do a good job of filling our prescriptions, we would like to caution you on the use of eyeglass vendors on the Internet. When purchasing spectacles via the internet these critical measurements and services are not met.

Many of the highest rated optical online optical retail websites on a worldwide basis, today, belong to the worlds largest optical corporations. I have a total listing of 69 of them at this date.

These corporations also own a majority of optical labs that were purchased over the last few years. These corporations have been around forever and also one owns over 400 optical manufacturers from lenses to lab equipment.

One should not question the quality of their products as they have all the resources and knowledge to produce good quality products.

[brandonlef]

I like this

[brandonlef]

We supply this with and RX out requests...

Legally, you have the right to your eyeglass prescription, and as a patient at (DV) you will always be provided with a copy upon request.

Listed below are the services/measurements essential to ordering a new pair of glasses to ensure clear and comfortable vision. These services/measurements are to be performed by the optician fitting your new glasses.

· Pupillary distance
· Segment height
· Vertical optical center
· Custom measurements for Position of Wear (“POW”)
· Eye size
· Bridge size
· Temple length
· Frame model and color
· Lens material and index
· Multifocal design and brand
· Optional lens features – such as tints, coatings, etc.
· Eyeglass dispensing adjustment
· Education and training on lens and frame features and care
· Ongoing adjustments
· Minor repairs

We provide the above services at no additional cost for patients who buy eyeglasses at DV, but we cannot provide them for glasses purchased elsewhere secondary to liability. While local opticians and optical shops generally do a good job of filling our prescriptions, we would like to caution you on the use of eyeglass vendors on the Internet. When purchasing spectacles via the internet these critical measurements and services are not met.

Here at DV we believe we offer the best value available when you consider service, quality, and cost. We understand if you decide to shop elsewhere for your glasses, but we hope this letter makes you aware of the risk. Please check with the vendor of your glasses to determine the return and refund policies in the event the product does not deliver.

Thank you for allowing us to participate in your eye health care. We hope you’ll continue to choose us as your primary eye care provider.

Sorry meant this..

That's great verbiage and makes the patient fully aware. Good work

[Golfnorth]

Many of the highest rated optical online optical retail websites on a worldwide basis, today, belong to the worlds largest optical corporations. I have a total listing of 69 of them at this date.

These corporations also own a majority of optical labs that were purchased over the last few years. These corporations have been around forever and also one owns over 400 optical manufacturers from lenses to lab equipment.

One should not question the quality of their products as they have all the resources and knowledge to produce good quality products.

Chris;

The internet vendors are missing the human element which is critical in getting exceptional vision.

[drk]

Many of the highest rated optical online optical retail websites on a worldwide basis, today, belong to the worlds largest optical corporations. I have a total listing of 69 of them at this date.

These corporations also own a majority of optical labs that were purchased over the last few years. These corporations have been around forever and also one owns over 400 optical manufacturers from lenses to lab equipment.

One should not question the quality of their products as they have all the resources and knowledge to produce good quality products.

Yes, many will.

But it is all for naught when a patient data entries their own idea of what their lens powers should be. Quality trash results.

[Barry Santini]

Yes, many will.

But it is all for naught when a patient data entries their own idea of what their lens powers should be. Quality trash results.

Ooooh! Can't wait for the **** to hit the fan when John Q Public enters a "plus" cyl Rx.

Barry

[Robert Martellaro]

The internet vendors are missing the human element which is critical in getting exceptional vision.

What could go wrong when street folk without optical science knowhow design and fit a prosthesis packed with medicine?

[drk]

For their kids, no less.

And I see that occurence, make no mistake!

Hypocrites! The AOA lobby and other legislature decision-makers feel children's vision is so important that it must be an "essential benefit" for any accredited health care plan.

And yet this sad, crass, third-world approach to health care is allowed.

Yoda says: "Regulate or deregulate. There is no 'try'."

[Lelarep]

Yes, many will. But it is all for naught when a patient data entries their own idea of what their lens powers should be. Quality trash results.

Its what's known as the GIGO principle in IT, Garbage In - Garbage Out.

[drstewart74]

Every time I read a thread on PD's I want to pull my hair out. Maybe it's just me, but, it all seems so obvious to me. We have patient's who want their PD's & guess what? I give it to them (very sweetly).

Can you guess what comes after that? They come in complaining about their glasses. (Yes, fist pump)

...and can you guess what comes after that? Me selling them another pair, a pair that works & fits! (and sometimes a new exam- double fist pump)

We have made money off of these people. Swap places with the un-educated person coming in to your office asking for their PD. We can assume they are trying to save some $, can't we all understand that? Or, maybe, they found a frame they like on line and can't find anywhere else. I will always give my very best service because one day, ONE DAY they will be back or they will tell some friends, family members how "nice" I am and send them to me.

I actually had a family who had exams here & always left with the rx to get their glasses on-line. Then one day, the amazing thing happened....the dad needed progressives! So, of course, I did the most natural thing. Sold him a pair of Silhouette glasses (with progressives)!! That was a nice sale!

I have been in this field for almost 25 years & had a very big hand in growing a very successful practice (the one I'm at now...18 years later).

So, this is my 2 cents, like I said, seems pretty obvious what to do...

[Ghost Rider]

Dear aec3409,
As of January 2016 we decided to charge a $20.00 fee for ALL requested PD'S.
I have seen all too often on-line purchases/disasters. It is a shame, but true, this will gradually increase. I have not ever used auto-refr. pd nor have I have ever used a printed PD on an outside rx. To commonly they automatically populate from prior, if we are talking about young people, theirs should be taken @ each exam.
If you haven't already ,wait til you get the visit from the Progressive on-line purchase. That will truly make your day!
Keep on smiling.
Ghost Rider

[Chris Ryser]

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................them guy's do need a bit more than a PD, if it is off you can not even eat without pain.

Similar case and how long will it be until there is a whole series of them.

You will have to come up with real solutions not all the samples how you could do better.


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[Chris Ryser]

This website just started last year and the Alexa rating is still low, but how long will it be until it gets popular and many others will jump into this field on the web ?

The web is changing the world. start adapting conventional ways before the web wins.

[optilady1]

I thought we were done arguing about pd's and only argued about blue light now.

[mervinek]

I thought we were done arguing about pd's and only argued about blue light now.

Opticians are great multi taskers!

[newguyaroundhere]

I thought we were done arguing about pd's and only argued about blue light now.

This is the song that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends
Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was
And will continue singing it forever just because...

[optilady1]

This is the song that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends
Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was
And will continue singing it forever just because...

lol, yup. What else can we resurrect? How about, "what other things can we perform with a pd stick?" My answer was a shiv.

[mervinek]

lol, yup. What else can we resurrect? How about, "what other things can we perform with a pd stick?" My answer was a shiv.

My metal pd stick was used as a screwdriver...desperate times bad display cabinet...